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The milk bar never closes

Published on : 19 September 2011 - 8:00am | By Eric Beauchemin (beeld: NOS)
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A campaign has been launched to encourage Dutch mothers to breastfeed their children until they reach school age. Many people believe that breastfeeding until such a late age can impede a child's development or that it even amounts to incest.

The campaign, 'Plenty of tit' (Tiet zat in Dutch), is designed to answer questions and break taboos regarding the subject. The Knowledge Centre for Breastfeeding, which is behind the campaign, has released a DVD which will be distributed via health clinics and paediatric wards in hospitals throughout the Netherlands and Flanders (Dutch-speaking Belgium).

In the Netherlands, 75 percent of mothers breastfeed their babies at birth. By the time they reach the age of six months, only 35 percent of children still get breast milk at least once a day. Six months later, the figure drops virtually to zero.

(eb/tt)

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Anonymous 20 September 2011 - 4:01pm

For me the bar has been closed a long time ago; no more 24 hours open bar.

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knirb 20 September 2011 - 8:53am

Mr. Sauer’s idea that this or any other issue shouldn’t be discussed because it would make some mothers feel guilty is a crock. Should all mothers then stop breastfeeding and should all discussion of breastfeeding stop so not to upset the 25% of mothers who don’t?
To challenge the assumption that one must stop by a certain age is part of a healthy discussion. A valid counter argument would be one that delves into why it wouldn’t be good for the child or the mothers who do breastfeed longer.

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Awesome Ted 20 September 2011 - 10:37pm

Don't worry. He never indicated that it shouldn't be discussed. You added that yourself. He simply questioned the usefulness of breastfeeding longer, and cautioned against trying to guilt mothers into doing it.

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knirb 21 September 2011 - 7:27am

Bullshit.
Sauers is not cautioning against trying to guilt mothers. He is implying that this campign already does and this is presented as his “scientific” opinion.
Quotes: “A campaign like this can make mothers feel guilty they’re unable to breastfeed...” and “There’s no reason to make mothers feel guilty”(1 min. 20).
Tiet zat’s aim is to give a positive message about breastfeeding and address criticism of lengthier breastfeeding. There is no evidence that this campaign is a put down of mothers who don’t breastfeed, but the organization responsible for the film does challenge the baby formula industry, whose scientific research on breastfeeding is highly suspect.
http://www.borstvoeding.com/dvd/dvd-tz.html

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Awesome Ted 21 September 2011 - 10:25am

Profanity. You are an exciteable fellow. Sauer criticised the campaign, but not the discussion. You built a straw-man around Sauer's words and mislabeled them as censorship. Most people know that there's nothing the Dutch like more than a good discussion.
I don't care what your position is regarding breastfeeding. I don't care if you keep doing it into your twenties.

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knirb 22 September 2011 - 7:34am

Censorship is the actual suppression of speech, not the suggestion or implication that something shouldn’t be discussed. Sauer didn’t call for banning the campaign and nowhere do I say that he did.
If you took your time, used the dictionary, got your facts straight, proofread before you commented, avoided childish “I don’t cares” and unsubstantiated allegations, you could add something useful to a good discussion.
Of course, you are under no obligation to do so, but don’t be surprised when your comments are identified as bullshit. Or would you prefer “bollocks”?

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Awesome Ted 23 September 2011 - 12:41am

"Shouldn’t be discussed" is what you typed in your first comment. That was a deliberate misrepresentation of what Sauer said. If you disagree, then back it up. You can keep your bollocks to yourself. Attacking me only proves your capacity for anger.

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knirb 24 September 2011 - 2:40pm

Sauer’s “There is no reason to make mothers feel guilty”, implies that the issue shouldn’t be discussed.
Had I used the phrase:
“implication that this or any other issue shouldn’t have been discussed”
instead of:
“idea that this or any other issue shouldn’t have been discussed”,
all of this mightn’t have gone completely over your head. But I doubt it.
Your phrases, “capacity for anger” and “deliberate misrepresentation” imply a knowledge of my mood or motives. That seems awesomely inflated.

jasmin 19 September 2011 - 12:56pm

It is every child's birthright, and my both kids had it for three years.The mother-child relation is the most pious and should be respected.

Anonymous 19 September 2011 - 2:17pm

Strongly agrees with u. but, there is something most experts are missing out on.They mom breast milk is for the kids. But, most mom's keep their breat milk after giving birth. which I found very strange and foolish. Think about it. go and buy a milk from the supermarket and drink a cup from it and put the rest somewhere, not in icebox. but somewhere, for few days and see what happens. It spoiled and you have worms in it right? Then think about the mom's keeping her milk from the child. No wonder why breast cancer are common in women in western countries.

Most other cultures breast feeds their children till full grown. for example the African, Asians ect.. We dont hear of breast cancer alot from these people why? because, they given their breast milk to their kids.
All we do is to give cow milk to our kids and inreturn get cow mentalities from our kids. which inturn have no family bond.

wang,yijiang 20 September 2011 - 3:02am / xi'an china/calgary canada

ya,keep human resource human and make good use of it;mother milk is eligible to other's child too;feeling guilty is result from clueless sometimes;if guilty is reasonable therefore must be felt and digested, i heard religion can help.

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