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Monday 13 February RNW - NEWS AND ANALYSIS FROM THE NETHERLANDS IN 10 LANGUAGES, WORLDWIDE 24/7 ON RADIO, TV AND ONLINE

The State We're In - The right to be fat

On air: 13 June 2009 22:00 (Photo: Clipart)

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13 June 2009 - In this edition of The State We’re In: a tale of press freedom victory and defeat as we speak with a Somali journalist who was shot just doing his job and a Lithuanian journalist speaks of his role in the dissolution of the Soviet Union. Plus we debate about the right to be fat and an insurance detective talks about tailing and exposing the cheats.

 

 


 

Almost murdered in Mogadishu: Ahmed Tajir is a journalist with Radio Shabelle in Mogadishu, Somalia. On 7 June 2009, he and his boss were attacked by gunmen in a market. He tells Jonathan about his ordeal and his hope to flee Somalia before he is killed for his work.

 

Breaking the rules in Lithuania: Audrius Braukylais is head of news for Lithuania Radio. He tells Jonathan about what it was like to work under Soviet rule and about the press freedom that came to Lithuania two years before the fall of the USSR.


Proud to be fat: The leader of the fat pride movement in the United States Marilyn Wann. Marilyn, who weighs 285 pounds (or 129 kilos), was spurred into action when her health insurance was denied. She says we live in a “fat-hating society” and calls for an end to the institutionalised discrimination and social ostracism inflicted on large people. Marilyn claims she has a right to be fat and argues strongly that fat people can be just as healthy as anyone else.


Views on fat people: Ginger Gorman went into a busy Amsterdam bar and asked people what they thought when they saw an obese person on the street. The answers ranged from pity and moral outrage to assumptions that they must be unhealthy.

Anti-fat health expert: Experts describe obesity as a “pandemic” which threatens to overwhelm health systems around the globe. Given this, does anyone have the right to be fat? Dr John Tickell is an Australian health and longevity expert with strong views on obesity. When asked whether people have a right to be fat, his answer was unequivocal: “That right is yours, the question is: Are you disadvantaging the rest of society?”

Fat is beautiful! (in Africa anyway): In the West, being labelled fat is degrading and hurtful. But in most of Africa, it’s just the opposite. Big is not only beautiful - it’s often considered to be a cultural right.  RNW producer Alberta Opoku, who is originally from Ghana and Senegalese artist Oumar Mbengue Atakosso talk with Jonathan about what fat means in Africa.

Insurance detective: We recently featured two American guests, a doctor and a cancer sufferer, who said that they’ve had to bend and even break the rules set by health insurance companies to get what they need. Mike LaCorte is a detective in the UK. He tells Jonathan what it’s like to investigate people who make suspicious-looking health insurance claims.
 

 

  • Leader of the fat pride movement Marilyn Wann<br>&copy; Photo: RNW/L. Garber - http://www.rnw.nl/english
  • Dr John Tickell - an Australian health and longevity expert<br>&copy; Photo: RNW - http://www.rnw.nl/english
  • Jonathan with Alberta Opoku and Oumar Mbengue Atakosso<br>&copy; Photo: RNW - http://www.rnw.nl/english
  • Art from Senegal by Oumar Mbengue Atakosso<br>&copy; Photo: RNW - http://www.rnw.nl/english

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Discussion

Anonymous 6 September 2010 - 3:03am / austria

i am doing a pursuasive speech on the right to be fat!

Anonymous 19 November 2009 - 3:35pm
Im doing a project in my speech class about persuasion about the right to be fat. :D
Orlantha 9 October 2009 - 7:27pm
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Douglas 19 June 2009 - 2:46am
I wonder if there is a connection, and to what extent, between people who laugh in the face of the scientific majority on the subject of health and those who laugh in the face of the scientific majority on the subject of Evolution? I'm not one to fully support statistics, especially when those statistics claim to convey facts about a population of 6.5 billion, however, I read recently that more-than 70% of post-graduate level students and professionals consider Evolution to be fact and Intelligent Design, or non-Evolution arguments to be false. Is it possible that the "self designating" fat population can be linked to the less-than 30% post-graduate level population? It might be said that those who believe in an after-life apply the same level of cognitive dissonance to their condition in this life. It would make sense that Marilyn would ignore the scientific majority, because this life matters very little when eternity is considered. I wonder.
genesgalore 18 June 2009 - 6:53pm
the whole "right to be fat" fantasy doesn't deserve to see the llght of day. overweight people are overweight cus they eat too much. enough with their fat-assed, lame excuses for being weak humans.
Anonymous 18 June 2009 - 7:17pm
Thank your genes too, genesgalore...And don't be vain..cus you could fatten too, without your knowing how, when, where...
Anonymous 15 June 2009 - 10:59pm
I am fat--BMI above 35. I don't choose to be fat; it's just the way my body is. I eat wholesome food and get lots of exercise. I'm pretty healthy; my blood pressure, lipids, sugar metabolism are all well within normal range. To answer the questions, I live in a fourth-floor walkup that is many steps up from the street; I come and go at least twice a day, so that is around 160 steps on a normal day; some days, like today when I'm doing laundry and taking out the trash, it's more. I regularly bicycle on errands that are up to five miles each way on hilly streets, and walk 3 to 5 miles on an average day (I use a pedometer, and keep track of the average.) I scrubbed my floor this week, and weeded the garden. I think that in terms of using more resources, my exercise is probably more of a problem than my weight. Exercise burns up a lot of calories; just sitting around being fat doesn't. In fact, sedentary fat people don't eat more than normal weight people, on average. So if anybody's wrecking the global climate by eating too much, it's all those backpackers and swimmers and runners, many of whom eat over 2500 calories a day. It would be interesting if airplane tickets were charged according to the weight of the traveller and his or her luggage. Men would probably pay a good deal more than women, as even lean men tend to be quite a bit heavier than lean women. Men also take up more passenger room with their broad shoulders, long arms and legs. Men tend to hog the arm rests, and tall men's knees poke the seats in front of them, making the passengers in those seats uncomfortable. Should they pay more?
jasmin 16 June 2009 - 12:54pm
Yes, lean people eat more though they don't exercise more. Their body metabolism burns their fat..And lean people do suffer from diabetes, hypertension, heart disease and cancers..Fat people aren't always diseased. However, they do have social, psychological and physical problems due to their obesity. But then lean people too have these problems. So you can't isolate fat people and make them miserable because their hormones aren't working properly..Have a heart...Be sweet and warm to them...it might melt their fat.....
Heather 15 June 2009 - 9:48am
How many Olympic athletes are fat? And like the doctor asked, can fat people walk up steep flights of stairs? I don't believe they are healthy at all. Everyone in my family who is overweight has serious health problems, from bad backs to bad knees to diabetes to heart disease. I don't want to pay extra in health care costs for larger wheelchairs, larger beds, special equipment needed to treat fat people. And what about the emergency services people like firemen, police, ambulance paramedics...are they supposed to be able to lift and carry people who weight two or three times as much as everyone else? There are definitely people who are naturally bigger than others, but if they can't do the same physical activities as someone who has a more proprtional body fat percentage, then they're not healthy. And fat people can stop crying about discrimination. In very recent western history, it was more honorable to be fat because only the royals and aristocrats could afford to eat enough and they didn't have to labor in the fields.
jasmin 15 June 2009 - 9:28am
CJD, you are right. However, the fat people cannot fight their weak will or their circumstances that lead to obesity...This, 'Right to be fat'..is a defensive mode to ward off stares and comments against them. I fully empathise too, with their plight as I myself have been through phases in life, which increased or decreased my weight, and things were beyond my control...I too was one of the 'slimmer than thou' group and often wondered that how could people carry so much weight and feel not guilty...Then my own weight increased, much to my discomfort and I could not control it, then I realised how hapless fat people are! I am back to normal but my attitude towards the fat or other abnormal people has changed. I accept them as they are and think twice before doling out slimming advice or a sermon...They do need help but they know it too..To each his/her own...

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