The State We're In, 28 January 2012. The first Western media interview of Imad Ghalioun, the Syrian politician who defected recently, a Wikileaks pioneer and politician from Iceland who helped make public the 'collateral murder' video, and a former East German cyclist who defected just before he went to the Olympics. Comment on the show.
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Imad Ghalioun was a member of Syria’s parliament until he defected to Egypt recently.
He recounts seeing government security forces shooting civilians, why he was branded a traitor and how the regime doesn’t even tolerate mention of the protestors – about 5,000 of whom have died so far.
This is his first interview with Western media.
More on Imad Ghalioun: Defected Syrian MP faced a wall of denial by Greg Kelly - editor, The State We're In.
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Birgitta Jónsdóttir in Iceland is a poet, politician and Wikileaks co-producer of the controversial "Collateral Murder" video – which showed graphic footage of a US helicopter strike against civilians in Baghdad.
The video got over 12 million hits, and the US Department of Justice is after her.
Now she’s the driving force behind new legislation aimed at making Iceland a safe haven for journalists being harassed by repressive regimes.
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Jürgen Kissner was a top cyclist in the former East Germany, slated to go to the Tokyo Olympics in 1964.
But on a training trip to Cologne, he grabbed at the chance to defect, and left his homeland, and team mates, behind.
He tells host Jonathan Groubert why.


























MP Birgitta Jónsdóttir is so right. I'm over 70, and the years since 9-11 remind me of the McCarthy & J. Edgar Hoover eras -- especially the time when they overlapped. Any country that maintains its supposed legitimacy through fear, is a country on the downslope. I voted FOR our current president because i hoped a constitutional lawyer would get us out of this mess. I was wrong.
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