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In your last comment I read that she needed correction: "so that she grew up to be an honest citizen and not a criminal who would spend her life behind bars". While I agree there needs some intervention here, I don't think she will spend any time behind bars as a criminal if there is no change. Why, because it seems people can do just about anything, repeatedly, and there still is no 'punishment' like jail time. Even drunk drivers get suspended licenses, fines that never get paid, probation... Any person can choose to misbehave. They will have to repeatedly beat and injure people, steal, forge checks, sell stolen property, buy, sell and use drugs... it goes on and on until what happens? - adjournment after adjournment until a judge throws everything out because it took too long to be dealt with - suspended sentence or plead guilty to a far lesser non-serious crime - failure to appear, adjourned repeatedly finally with an arrest warrant issued that police never execute, and a fine that will never be paid - and on, and on, and on.... I just think we've lost the ability to correct or change peoples' behaviour anymore. Part of me wants to return to a harsher, stricter society but that's just why our Canadian soldiers are fighting and dying in Afghanistan - to stop a strict, religious-based Taliban domination of Afghans. So, what are we trying to do in our societies anymore? Are we liberal, making decisions based on academic research and 'best practices' or are we strict enforcers needing to push back against criminals and keep our communities and families safe? Anyone have an idea? Thanks. Canada Dave, Alberta Canada