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Relaxed Dutch drugs policy may end

Published on : 2 July 2009 - 2:49pm | By Johan van Slooten
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The policy on soft drugs in the Netherlands has become a famous – or infamous - aspect of the international image of a free and liberated country with relaxed views on delicate issues. But that may come to an end, now that a government commission has admitted the current drugs policy has gone too far and it should be changed.

A strictly monitored supply of soft drugs to coffeeshops, sold to local customers only, should help in controlling the use of soft drugs in the Netherlands, says the commission in a report published on Thursday. The Netherlands’ relaxed policy on cannabis and other soft drugs should become much stricter to contain the policy’s negative side effects such as drugs tourism and organised crime.
 

Smaller coffeeshops
The easy going policy on drugs and coffeeshops has grown over the past thirty years, but according to Wim van de Donk, who presided over the commission, the policy doesn’t work anymore. “It has gone too far”, the report says. “We need to return to smaller coffeeshops that only serve local customers”. This would mean an end to drug tourism, where clients come from far to buy soft drugs.
 

Supply
One of the main problems the Dutch coffeeshops have to deal with is the supply of their goods. While the sale of soft drugs is allowed, growing and supplying them remain illegal. The report acknowledges that this is an almost impossible situation, saying the supply should be allowed under strict rules. The commission also sees possibilities for a regulated way of growing cannabis and other soft drugs. This would sideline organised crime, which currently plays a major role in the growing of (illegal) cannabis.

Only regulated, Dutch grown soft drugs should be allowed to be on sale in coffeeshops, the commission says.

Closing coffeeshops is not an option, Mr Van de Donk says: “We need action, not boarding up”.
 

Negative effects
The report was commissioned by the Dutch government  after city councils in the south of the Netherlands expressed their growing doubts over the current relaxed drugs policy. Cities like Maastricht, Bergen op Zoom and Terneuzen – all very close to the Belgian border – have endured the negative effects of heavy drug tourism, attracting people from Belgium, France and Germany where the sale of soft drugs is prohibited.

The commission also calls for an independent drugs authority to control the soft drugs market and that can monitor any future changes in drug policies. Also, police should work in a more coherent manner to combat drugs related organised crime.

 

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Anonymous 24 October 2009 - 10:47am
Can't we all just get along? :) Legalize it!!! Justin from California
Birgit 2 October 2009 - 2:26pm
anyone who has never used the drugs in question here isn't even entitled to an opinion! How can you judge something, if you don't know what it is? All I can say is, if alcohol is legal.. Then you can't possibly think about banning soft drugs! Alcohol is more dangerous, addicitve and does much more damage to the body!
Hiram 2 October 2009 - 5:09pm
Birgit, anyone who has do deal with the consquences of dope heads and alcoholics driving their autos on the motorways ahs a right to speak-up loudly against the dangers. Dope heads and alcoholics don't have a right to endanger the public. You are right about alcohol being a danger but that justify the legal use of a dangerous, mind-altering drug such as the wacky tobacco called cannabis. If dope heads are the only ones to voice an opinion on illegal drugs, then the world has gone to pot!
Hiram 19 August 2009 - 2:32pm
Whoa, Snakey! Take it easy, mate. No uprisings, ok. No one is going to trample on your "personal freedoms". Did you ever think about the personal freedoms of others outside of you? What I hear you saying is "I have a right to do as I please, such as toking on a joint or getting drunk, and then endangering the lives of innocent people by driving on a public motorway." You have a personal freedom to do as you please but you don't have the right to endanger others with your freedoms. We all have rights and responsibilities, not just Sie.
Snakey b 19 August 2009 - 12:54pm
I have an idea. What if I get tired of prohibitionist morons thinking they have any business whatsoever "educating me through legislation," and causing me to lose all my personal freedoms for the sake of the paranoid masses "safety concerns." YOU ARE ALL GOING TO DIE. It is inevitable. You don't know what will happen when you die, and you very might well burn in abysmal lamenting for all of blazing eternity. There is no point in restricting peoples freedom in what they put in their bodies because they are THEIR bodies and it has nothing to do with you! You don't get a say in what I do. I agree with the idea that we have certain responsibilities not to endager others (to an extent). I didn't ask to be born into these police state societies we live in however, and I pick and choose what laws I agree with and follow, not the lawmakers themselves. Personal freedom comes first because that is what individuals which comprise societies are made up of. Even if I want to be a heroin addict, who the hell is Hiram or anyone else to tell me what to do? I know that the more CCTV I have watching me, the more police harassing me thinking they have a right to question my actions, and the more governments that think they can turn its people into complacent slaves; the closer we are to uprisings. People like Hiram will be the first to go, and ideally used as foodstuffs and organ donors. The best part about it is, it wont be Marijuana smokers that do it, it will be the general public when they realize that public safety doesn't mean anything without personal freedom. Do us all a favor Hiram, and move to Malaysia or someplace where they happily execute the "cancerous." They have plenty of those starving children for you to help in your godly perfect ways, and who knows, maybe you can execute some of them too!
Snakey b 19 August 2009 - 12:54pm
I have an idea. What if I get tired of prohibitionist morons thinking they have any business whatsoever "educating me through legislation," and causing me to lose all my personal freedoms for the sake of the paranoid masses "safety concerns." YOU ARE ALL GOING TO DIE. It is inevitable. You don't know what will happen when you die, and you very might well burn in abysmal lamenting for all of blazing eternity. There is no point in restricting peoples freedom in what they put in their bodies because they are THEIR bodies and it has nothing to do with you! You don't get a say in what I do. I agree with the idea that we have certain responsibilities not to endager others (to an extent). I didn't ask to be born into these police state societies we live in however, and I pick and choose what laws I agree with and follow, not the lawmakers themselves. Personal freedom comes first because that is what individuals which comprise societies are made up of. Even if I want to be a heroin addict, who the hell is Hiram or anyone else to tell me what to do? I know that the more CCTV I have watching me, the more police harassing me thinking they have a right to question my actions, and the more governments that think they can turn its people into complacent slaves; the closer we are to uprisings. People like Hiram will be the first to go, and ideally used as foodstuffs and organ donors. The best part about it is, it wont be Marijuana smokers that do it, it will be the general public when they realize that public safety doesn't mean anything without personal freedom. Do us all a favor Hiram, and move to Malaysia or someplace where they happily execute the "cancerous." They have plenty of those starving children for you to help in your godly perfect ways, and who knows, maybe you can execute some of them too!
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Hiram 13 July 2009 - 10:31pm
"SOD OFF HIRAM AND THANKYOU ROXN"... FORlegal, calm down! The government isn't going to take or stop the flow of wacky tobacco. It is amazing how people can get so upset about a mind altering drug like marijuana. Marijuana, my friend is a psychoactive drug which affects the minds of it's users and when it does affect the minds of the users, the users behaviours are adversely affected. Do some research and you will find marijuana is not good for the user or the innocent public which has to deal with the consquences of drivers whose minds have been altered with the psychoactive drug. Be nice, okay?
FORlegal 13 July 2009 - 6:27pm
im sorry Hiram, who here has ever heard of someone who likes the occasional joint stealing or murdering someone? another question... which country has one of the lowest hard-drug user rates in the world? another question... what has prohibition done for the US and the UK except for increase hard-drug usage, pack prisons until their bursting with some unfortunate souls who got caught with their months supply of cannabis, and fuel the criminals that are illegaly selling these substances - which, because they are under constant pressure of the authorities, will go about violence if something happens to not go their way? oh yeah and while im at it. SOD OFF HIRAM AND THANKYOU ROXN
roxn 12 July 2009 - 1:56pm
Policing drugs is expensive - what needs to happen is more countries need to relax drug policies. The UK police had asked the government to relax certain drugs like marijuana - because it was just too much work - dealing with these insignificant 'crimes' - but since Tony Blair left office Brown and (the now infamous) Jacqui Smith placed the drug back in the stronger category. Look at Mexico - talk about the negative effects of drugs - but then look at Portugal - some thought when they stopped arresting people for drug usage - that they were going to have an onslaught of drug migration and that did not happen. In one UK county - started given known heroin and cocaine addicts their drugs - from a clinic - what happened was that the crime dropped so much police were driving around with nothing to do - and making jokes about the police in the next county - who were still extremely busy. But when Blair came in he got rid of the project - likely on moral grounds. But what these UK drug addicts appreciated was being able to sit home and watch TV in the evening and to take a job - without having to go out and steal and prostitute for their drugs. Society perhaps needs to looks at drugs differently - that if some are addicted then we all end up paying. I'd rather see them get their drugs from a clinic - and instead of policing what can't be policed - that money spent on programs telling children 'exactly' what each of these drugs do - rather than some propaganda government issued report - 'Just Say No' - to what? Marijuana for example doesn't lead to injecting oneself with heroin - young people need to be told the truth. But because some kids were lied to years ago some - thought heroin and marijuana were the same - the tragedy was many wealthy kids ended up addicts or hardened junkies. We need to look at a EU wide relaxation of drugs policy and place more emphasis on prevention - through education - and assisting sick - medically ill - addicts - not on the dirty street corner - were diseases are likely spread - for the crime of getting hooked - but in a proper clinic - to allow these people to have some semblance of a normal life - which will benefit all of society.
Cate 9 July 2009 - 8:41am
Oh this is fun Hiram..I don't really want the last word either...so it's a bit of a quandry, but too tantalising...ha ha. I am in agreement with the general sentiment of what you've written, so it's not a truth that I am prejudiced against you. It's my view...that your tone was "off". Your mail yesterday was much easier to read in that respect, so thanks for that. I think we should just leave it at that now...agreed? ;-)
Cate 8 July 2009 - 7:36am
You know something Hiram...you don't half talk rubbish. Sorry to have to say it but it's the truth. You haven't even got your facts right regarding types of drugs. By the way there are people who would steal a bike for a packet of cigarettes and they're legal! I 'm guessing however that you'll want to have the last word on this subject to show everyone how cleverly prejudiced you are ..go on then, it doesn't make you right though :-).
Hiram 8 July 2009 - 3:44pm
Cate, I don't want the last word. If you want it, you may have it. You are right about me being prejudiced. I am prejudiced against soft drugs like Marijuana. It is a cancer which robs and steals the lives and minds of the users. The long-term negative affects on Marjuana users is documented and easy to research. Check it out. } As to people stealing bikes for a pack of cigarettes, I am sure you are right but I would wager more bikes are stole for soft drugs than cigarettes. You can have the last word unless you use a question mark. Did you realize you were being prejudiced against me because of my stance. You see we are all prejudice and take a stance for or against an issue. I don't like soft drugs because of the destruction of human lives I have seen over time. If I travel a road and see the many dangers of it's path, I go another way. Marijuana is a dangerous path and it has lead to many peoples demise...just like cigarettes. You got the last word :)
anonymous 6 July 2009 - 2:15pm
Hiram your ignorance is disgusting. Do you think people from afar are stealing to buy plane tickets to Amsterdam to pour money into the Dutch economy? You're confusing soft drugs with hard drugs. People do not commit violent crimes to be able to smoke a joint. You're taking rare examples of people hurting others under the influence and making it sound like the norm. Just because some things are illegal does not mean they are wrong to do. It is illegal in China to even offer food to a North Korean refugee, would you let a child starve at your feet in order to obey the law? It is more harmful for people to share your mindset and restrict the freedoms of others, than to let people smoke a little pot.
Hiram 7 July 2009 - 12:50am
anonymous, your analogy of the "North Korean refugee" with making soft drugs, like marijuana, is weak. Making Marijuana illegal because of it's adverse effects on the innocent public has nothing to do with China and it's law on feeding North Korean refugees. It sounds like you are talking about obeying all laws because they are part of the law. No, I wouldn't let any child, woman, or man go hungry if I could help them. There is a big difference between making a dangerous drug, like marijuana, and it is dangerous to the user and the public's safety, and breaking the law to feed the starving; and, I hope you think so. P.S. Those dope heads are always stealing bicycles of others to get their dope high. See what smoking dope will do. It will make the user to steal some poor child's bike. What a shame!
Q2 6 July 2009 - 1:17pm
The mafia and all their economic system (in a lot of cases with goverment support or involvement) is eagerly waiting for the illegalisation....
Anonymous 4 July 2009 - 4:23pm
The "dope heads" have a rise in economy in times of credit crisis and their unemployment rate is a lot lower than average in the EU. Hiram or any other person talking badly about this country come surely from the U.S (btw: thank you for the credit crisis!) or maybe from the UK that is currently in the shit if we talk about politics or economics. I work in Maastricht and live in Germany and I respect this country. They are not in this position because they allow coffee shops (even I am not so stupid) but their policy´s in general are much more effective than most other countries. Just one fakt, the Netherlands have the lowest rate in hard-drug users in the world. I prefer a dope head a million times before you as a friend @ Hiram.
icysurfer 3 July 2009 - 7:56pm
HEADLINE READS : Forward thinking, Successful European Country becomes like the rest of the Weak God-Fearing World The Dutch laws are effective for the Dutch system. Is this pandering to SOME OUTSIDE SOURCE....?? EU...? USA...?? It is more a problem for the border provinces... Possily, the ban on foreign people enjoying their smoke is a consequence of the "border province Issues." Too bad. As for drinking or smoking and driving.. I never have driven an automobile the 15+ times I have been in the Netherlands... Please, lovely and evolved Nederlanders, vote these Fools out.
Cate 3 July 2009 - 12:35pm
Oh do grow up Hiram and go wave your big stick somewhere else. I agree of course that marijuana is indeed mind altering, as is alcohol. Should we then ban both or try to educate, guide and legislate? I agree that driving under the influence of anything is irresponsible, I am sure I am not the only one who shares that view with you. Unfortunately your tone is so aggressive that it makes my hackles rise. YOU need to curb your habits even though you don't see the need for it. Calm down and credit others with knowing the difference between right and wrong without your preaching.
Hiram 3 July 2009 - 2:29pm
"Calm down and credit others with knowing the difference between right and wrong without your preaching."....Dope heads know the difference between right and wrong but they care nothing about the rights of others or they wouldn't rob and steal for their drugs. { As to my tone being so aggressive...Drug users and and drunks are far more aggressive. } {We educate by legislation and we guide by enforcement.} Don't get your hackles up for someone's aggressive opinions. It's not molting season time in the barnyard.
Anonymous 3 July 2009 - 12:18pm
Does the Netherlands really want to be known as the drug and prostitute capital of europe? Yes, you will get more tourists for legalising soft drugs but what type of tourists will the Netherlads be attracting? The lower end of society?
Ex-American 3 July 2009 - 6:15am
Nothing needs reforming more than OTHER peoples' habits.
Hiram 3 July 2009 - 10:31am
Why would you want to reform your own habits? If people have a habit to rob and steal from OTHERS, they, society, have a responsibility to protect themselves. They can either do nothing or attempt to reform the person doing the stealing. Drug users and thieves have a lot in common, they both are dangerous. They care nothing about the freedom of others. They both steal and rob the properties of OTHERS in order to satisfy their own personal habits. We all have Freedoms and Responsibilties. Some people need to be reformed because they are not responsible people and care nothing about how their actions affect others.
Ex-American 3 July 2009 - 5:17pm
Most people don't steal to pay for drugs or alcohol or food etc. But if you make drugs illegal then the price will go up and they are more likely to do so. You just like to demonize others who don't share you're views. It's a technique called "Ad Hominem" and it exposes the weakness of your argument. Relax! Your stressful uptight thinking will harm you more than anyone else possible can. Live and Let Live.
Ex-American 4 July 2009 - 2:08am
Not all drug users are "dope-heads". Perhaps you had your bike stolen by a junkie and not being a user yourself you demonize all so you'll have plenty of targets for your dis-ease. All I know is forget the rhetoric and name calling. If you make it illegal it will actually make more problems. As simple as that. Do you want MORE problems? Not all drugs are the same and neither are people. Some good some bad. Perhaps less anger rather than fewer drugs is needed.<3>
Hiram 3 July 2009 - 7:02pm
Ex-american, that has been my whole contention "Live and Let Live" but dope heads don't care about others. They only care about their drug problems and how they are going to get their next highs. The weakness of my arguement is in the minds of the people who care nothing about the innocent people who get hurt and will get hurt by drug pushers and users. They try to tell people their justifications are weak and when they can't justify their arguements they tell others as an arguement that they like to "demonize." { Illegal drugs are a cancer and like the cancer you have to remove it. Live and Live, as I said before has rights and responsibilities. You don't have a right to use illegal drugs and harm others who are not violating the rights of others. Don't get so upset about illegal drugs. Go and drink a glass of cold water. Much better for you.
Ex-American 4 July 2009 - 2:08am
Not all drug users are "dope-heads". Perhaps you had your bike stolen by a junkie and not being a user yourself you demonize all so you'll have plenty of targets for your dis-ease. All I know is forget the rhetoric and name calling. If you make it illegal it will actually make MORE problems. As simple as that. I've seen it first hand on a large scale. Do you want MORE problems? Not all drugs are the same and neither are people. Some good some bad. Perhaps less anger rather than fewer drugs is needed.
Ex-American 4 July 2009 - 2:03am
Not all drug users are "dope-heads". Perhaps you had your bike stolen by a junkie and not being a user yourself you demonize all so you'll have plenty of targets for your dis-ease. All I know is forget the rhetoric and name calling. If you make it illegal it will actually make more problems. As simple as that. Do you want MORE problems? Not all drugs are the same and neither are people. Some good some bad. Perhaps less anger rather than fewer drugs is needed.
Hiram 3 July 2009 - 2:43am
"...a government commission has admitted the current drugs policy has gone too far and it should be changed." { Goodddddddd! Every time dope heads, those on hard and soft drugs (also those on alcohol) get into a motor vehicle and drive on a motorway, they kill and maim others. Marijuana is a mind altering drug and affects the drug user in vehicles and while operating equipment at their place of employment.} A "free society" doesn't mean you have a right to endanger the public. You have a right to live free and do as you please...as long as your freedom doesn't infringe on the rights of others. Smoking dope and driving while intoxicated ends at the time you place others in danger. Bahhhhhhhhh, humbug!
John Giles 2 July 2009 - 8:43pm
Shocker - I come Amsterdam three times a year to get gently relaxed - how many millions will you guys lose if foreigners can't smoke the odd joint anymore?

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