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Geert Wilders - racist or not?

Published on : 17 September 2009 - 2:31pm | By John Tyler (Photo: RNW)
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Is Geert Wilders a racist? Many people, including respected Dutch opposition leader Alexander Pechtold, think so. So far national political figures have been reluctant to express themselves so bluntly about the far-right Freedom Party leader.

Mr Pechtold's comments came after anti-immigrant politician Wilders had once again used shock tactics during a major political debate in the Dutch parliament.

Tax the scarf
Geert Wilders proposed to tax women who wear the Muslim headscarf. Any Muslim woman who wants to wear a headscarf would have to apply for a licence, and pay a yearly 1000 euros for the privilege. Wilders says the money raised would go toward women's emancipation programmes:

"We're sick and tired of the headscarves. And we'll do everything we can to get rid of them. We've already proposed a law to ban the burqa, and this is a way to get rid of headscarves, which pollute the Dutch landscape. It's not just that they're ugly; they're also a sign of the repression of women. We want to oppose that."

Newsline's Johan van Slooten went to Hilversum to gauge the public's reaction:

Difficult distinction
The rest of the Dutch parliament reacted with disdain and disbelief. One after another, MPs asked Wilders if this was a serious proposal. For instance, would he include other types of head covering in the tax? And how about Orthodox Christian women who wear a headscarf quite similar to the Muslim version?

In reaction, Wilders said he would prefer to ban the headscarf altogether, but that appeared to be legally impossible. So he wanted to leave out the 'Christian' headscarf, but didn't mention how policy would make that distinction.

The Minister for Integration, Eberhard van der Laan, rejected the proposal out of hand:

"I call it a hysterical proposal. The Netherlands is built on freedom of religion and freedom of speech. It's so ridiculous, and it's insulting to those who wear it."

Blunt
The strongest reaction came from opposition leader Alexander Pechtold. He called the proposal 'out of every order':

"To think that how your clothing is in public, that you should one way or another tax this. It's his xenophobic and racist view of society."

Q: Would you call Mr Wilders racist? 

"Oh yes he's a racist. Yes, I can be as blunt as that. He's a racist."

Other MP don't go so far.

"I think he's anti-Islam, that would be more precise," says Jeroen Dijsselbloem from the governing Social Democrats.

"At least he uses a form of politics that discriminates between Muslims and non-Muslims. You could call that racism," reacts Harry van Bommel from the Socialist Party.

"Well, I'm not into using these big words at all. This proposal he did to tax headscarves, I think it’s rather ridiculous," said Paul de Krom from the liberal VVD. 

Electoral success
Mr Wilders has acquired a reputation for making shocking statements during general debates. Two years ago, he called for the banning of the Muslim holy book, the Quran. Last year, he warned that Muslims were colonising the Netherlands.

These antics have brought electoral success. The Freedom Party was the second-largest party in last spring's elections to the European Parliament. For the last six months, public opinion polls have consistently placed the Freedom Party as the first or second most popular party in the country.

With his latest proposal for a headscarf tax, Wilders has once again succeeded in distancing himself from mainstream politics. But has he finally gone too far, even for his own supporters? Pollsters are hastily trying to find out.

Geert Wilders told Radio Netherlands he was too busy to react to Pechtold's allegations. Another Freedom Party MP, Hero Brinkman, said Wilders is not racist. In fact, continued Brinkman, the proposal to tax headscarves is meant to protect Muslim women.

Listen to an interview with Alexander Pechtold here.

 

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Discussion

Joseph 20 September 2009 - 4:44pm
Mr Wilders is more of a sectarian than a racist, to use the correct terminology. Considering that Islam is an extremely sectarian faith, lacking tolerance for other religions and promoting hatred of Western values, then Mr Wilders' party is providing a balance to this. If Wilders is wrong, then so too are Islamic attitudes to others.
Hiram 20 September 2009 - 7:19pm
Joesph, you stated: "If Wilders is wrong, then so too are Islamic attitudes to others." ......Islamic attitudes, a lot of them, are wrong but Wilders doesn't need to go to their level. Punish any nation who supports terrorism and hold them accountable. Not women who wear head scarves. Wilders is right about the threat of terrorism but punishing innocent people isn/t the solution. Wilders needs to stop and think before he speaks!
Joseph 21 September 2009 - 3:17am
Hiram, I'm glad you agree that "Islamic attitudes, a lot of them, are wrong" and that "Wilders is right about the threat of terrorism". It is a mistake to believe that only certain nations support terror. In fact, 21st Century terror is cellular and funded in two directions; from the top down and from the grass roots of this community. It is correct for Mr Wilders to challenge the legitimacy of the Islamic population in Holland. They claim to be a brotherhood and a nation across the globe. The people you love may be the next victims.
Thomas - USA 18 September 2009 - 5:33pm
@Nox your astute narrative and observation about the differences between race and belief system misses the gist of the matter: the race baiting - that raging in the US too - has nothing to do with racial issues. It's a clever attempt to SILENCE all opposing views by circumventing the "Freedom of Speech" laws. Everybody with basic education knows that RACE is congenital and immutable, it's in the DNA while RELIGION is changeable at will. The "RACIST!" label will not be erased because this is the only tool left to silence your enemies where free speech is protected. The good new is that this word is so much overused that lost all it's all original meaning. @Hiram: The French put a ban on offending Islamic dresses and they stopped whining: to suggest that opposing provocative head scarves is punishable by prison! - beyond the absurd. Try to internalize a simple fact: every demeanor that provokes the majority's cultural sensitivities, an arrogant reminder that "I am different, I am not like you" implies a degree of condescending attitude that people resent.
Nox 18 September 2009 - 6:15pm
His opponents resorting to calling him a raciest instead of discussing the valid issue he raises has lead to him receiving far more support. His continued effort to single out Islam from other religions undermines that support. The banning of items of clothing due to religious reasons may not be raciest but that does not make it right. There are very good reasons to ban all face covering clothing in public for matters of security and sociability, taxing head scarves in the Netherlands because someone may have forced someone else to wear one is not going to promote a sensible debate.
Nox 18 September 2009 - 2:45pm
To be a raciest you have to discriminate based on race which can not be changed, the term can not be applied regarding beliefs which can be changed. Calling someone raciest that hates a belief system like Islam is the equivalent of calling someone a raciest for hating a belief system like fascism. Right or wrong about what he hates he is not a raciest and should be allowed to express his views with out that sort of childish name calling. Linking his popularity with his most extreme behavior, as this article does, ignores the lack of faith people have with the traditional parties to handle immigration issues.
Hiram 18 September 2009 - 4:02pm
Nox, you stated: "Calling someone raciest that hates a belief system like Islam is the equivalent of calling someone a raciest for hating a belief system like fascism."........ Fascism is: "A often capitalized a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition"; therefore, when Wilders uses his politicial philosophy and movement (political party) to oppress (to crush or burden by abuse of power or authority) specifically the Muslim people in his nation by taxing scarves, he puts himself and his party as racists and Fascists. { Wilders, even though he is a racist and Facist, is right about warning his nation and the world about the dangers of Islam, a Facist religion, but he shouldn't be allowed to suppress Muslim women by taxing scarves. When he only went after the head dress of Muslim women he showed the world that he isn't a good leader and representative of Netherlands and he put himself in the same category with Islam and their hatred for others who are not Muslim. Attacking scarves did not help his cause. It hindered freedom in the Netherlands and by doing so he will probably go to prison.
Nox 18 September 2009 - 4:44pm
This article and my response is about people calling him a raciest and being supported only because he makes outrageous statements. It is not about the right or wrong of Wilders and Islamic beliefs, which for the most part I agree with your opinions about. Equivalent does not mean exactly the same as, my statement was that both Fascism and Islam can be described as belief systems and they can not be defined as races. As much as you may disagree with Wilders fascist beliefs you would not expect to be called a raciest for doing so, why do you think it is valid for you to call him a raciest for disagreeing with Islamic beliefs?
Lost in Texas 18 September 2009 - 8:29am
While I do agree that there are many aspects of Islam that are misogynistic and homophobic to the core, the very notion that a country should combat those negative qualities by selectively taxing what individuals choose to wear in public ought to raise the hackles of all people who profess to value individual freedoms.
Adil 18 September 2009 - 5:19am
As a British born Muslim, living in the Netherlands, I am truly astonished at the remarks Gert Wilders makes. His comments are purely to instigate reactions from the Muslim community who feel personally attacked by his comments. It is ridiculous to suggest that people should be taxed for CHOOSING to wear a headscarf because it is against the so called Dutch values. If his sole purpose is to protect Dutch values, then he should be proposing taxes on American, British and other shows which are broadcast daily in the Netherlands. He should be promoting the Dutch language and imposing taxes on Dutch/British firms such as Shell who conduct their daily businesses in English as opposed to Dutch. Any sensible person can see how ridiculous this would be and how damaging it is to the Dutch economy. His comments are purely to target a specific group, namely Muslims. If Gert Wilders was the Prime Minister, would he discourage multinationals who have their main language as English from setting up in the Netherlands as it is against Dutch values; this is nonsense and would ruin a country I admire. However, every time I hear such stories, my admiration for this country waivers due to the huge amount of support Wilders has gathered in the Netherlands. As for comments from posters regarding the hatred of Islam due to it endorsing Jihad, I wish to point out that only a SMALL minority of so called Muslims endorse terrorism for their own gains. As with any religion, there are different sects and different organisations. Looking back at British history, many of you would be aware of the religious tensions between the Catholics and the Protestants and aware that the IRA had pursued a campaign of terror against the British population, yet we do not see people branding all Christians as terrorists and I would expect the same from every religion. In every cult, group, religion or sect there are bad apples and the actions of these bad apples cannot be equated to the actions of all people in that group. I wish that people would see that the majority of Muslims are against this kind of terrorism and denounce the actions of the minority. Since living in the Netherlands I have closely followed the controversy surrounding Gert Wilders and I agree with the above sentiments that his actions should be afforded as little attention as possible and I am truly ashamed of the British decision to ban him from entering the United Kingdom as it only provides weak, attention seeking people like Gert Wilders further publicity.
Anonymous 12 October 2009 - 11:45am
Adil, I am truly astonished at the remarks Mahmoud Ahmadinejad (Iranian PM) makes in regard to the holocaust being a myth. His comments are purely to instigate reactions from the Jewish community. Muslims always seem to be outraged when somebody critises Islam. I am yet to see muslim outrage when islamic terrorist's (people which muslims always seem to say represent a minority section of Islam) hijack planes, crash into buildings, set off bombs, commit murder, critisice the west and democracy, or threaten critics (they have had years to give a large scale anti-islamic-terrorist demonstration or even show outrage but haven't, I wonder why...). However, muslims always expect the majority of non-muslim's to be outraged when a minor section criticies them. And they wonder why people don't believe that Islam is a "peaceful and tolerant religion" and oppose them???!!!
Anonymous 29 September 2009 - 5:27am
i don't know why everybody is so distracted by the Jihad? they are just a bunch of illiterate young boys who play with fire crackers not caring who they may injure or wound. It is just a game for them. They are too ignorant and uneducated to realise what they are doing. people should realise that the Islamic movement is using the stupid Jihad as their 'Cover'. The Jihad movement is up front and obvious but the Islamic movement if underhanded, and insults our intelligence. Geert simply wishes to awaken people to the fact that the Isamics are methodically taking over the world via immigration, and to make it worse, the stupid european governments are playing into their hands. I don't understand why you intelligent, educated europeans can't see Geert as their "Savior". He is simply a Big Daddy who is trying, and even risking his life to save yours, and that of his country. and the rest of europe. What is wrong with taxing them for wearing scarves? They should learn that like everbody else who immigrates to a country, that they must try to conform to that society they chose to live in. WE must teach them........the ole saying. "When in Rome, do as the Romans do". The use of head scarves and long robes is an insult to our culture!!! I spend a lot of time in the middle east, and out of respect for THEIR culture, I cover my head when out in public. Why can't they respect MY culture, and take their scarves OFF? I too am not a racist, but I can't stop myself from resenting Islam. They are aggressive and pushy and act like the conquering forces. They, and their culture is INVADING all of Europe, and many other parts of the world........it is a SNEAKY ATTACK......SILENT AND SNEAKY.........BUT ONLY TO THE STUPID UNAWARE PEOPLE AND GOVERNMENTS WHO PREFER TO TURN A BLIND EYE TO THE DANGER THAT IMMIGRATION HAS PRODUCED WORLD-WIDE. WHAT RIGHT DO THEY HAVE TO INVADE OUR COUNTRIES, AND PUSH US TO THE SIDE SO TO MAKE ROOM FOR THEM ON THE MAIN ROADS..........THEY ARE RUDE, UNEDUCATED, ARROGANT SON OF A BITCHES!!!! WE SHOULD HONOR AND LOVE OUR OWN CULTURE, NOT ALLOW ISLAM TO POOH, POOH IT, AND MAKE US FEEL ASHAMED OF IT. COME ON EVERYBODY......STICK UP FOR YOUR CULTURE AND YOUR RIGHTS IN YOUR OWN COUNTRIES! THAT'S ALL THAT GEERT IS TRYING TO GET YOU TO DO...............WAKE UP!!!! BEFORE ITS TOO LATE. i used to love to go to India but it is becoming more and more difficult because Islam has taken over the greater part of the country. I now have to seek out the small Hindu and Tibetan enclaves there to find a bit of the ole Indian, Hindu spirit. Places like Pushkar, Rishikesh, and McLeod Ganj are the few places left that are strictly Hindu.........See, thats a perfect example of how Islam takes over a country if the natives are too passive, and allow themselves to be invaded. The Hindu's are basically a mild natured people, devoted to their happy, and fun-like religion. Yes, they have some Warrior tribes like the Seeks, but even they were not strong enough to prevent the Islamic take-over. Just wait.........now they are rapidly building their Mosques in every country, but like in India, they will soon take the liberty given to them in India....to blast out their cries over microphones every morning at dawn to call their people to the mosques for prayer. If you don't believe me, try spending a few days in Munbai, (Bombay). you better go to bed very early in the evening because you will be blasted out of your bed at five a.m................how is that for imposing on a culture and society with your own??? JUST WAIT........IT WILL ALL BE AN EVERY DAY THING SOON HERE IN EVERY COUNTRY OF EUROPE. JUST WAIT........AND SUFFER......... .OR, PRESS YOUR GOVERNMENT TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE IMMIGRATION LAWS. ITS UP TO YOU THE PEOPLE. GEERT CAN'T FIGHT ALL YOUR BATTLES FOR YOU..........ALONE.
Anonymous 29 September 2009 - 5:05am
i don't know why everybody is so distracted by the Jihad? they are just a bunch of illiterate young boys who play with fire crackers not caring who they may injure or wound. It is just a game for them. They are too ignorant and uneducated to realise what they are doing. people should realise that the Islamic movement is using the stupid Jihad as their 'Cover'. The Jihad movement is up front and obvious but the Islamic movement if underhanded, and insults our intelligence. Geert simply wishes to awaken people to the fact that the Isamics are methodically taking over the world via immigration, and to make it worse, the stupid european governments are playing into their hands. I don't understand why you intelligent, educated europeans can't see Geert as their "Savior". He is simply a Big Daddy who is trying, and even risking his life to save yours, and that of his country. and the rest of europe. What is wrong with taxing them for wearing scarves? They should learn that like everbody else who immigrates to a country, that they must try to conform to that society they chose to live in. WE must teach them........the ole saying. "When in Rome, do as the Romans do". The use of head scarves and long robes is an insult to our culture!!! I spend a lot of time in the middle east, and out of respect for THEIR culture, I cover my head when out in public. Why can't they respect MY culture, and take their scarves OFF? I too am not a racist, but I can't stop myself from resenting Islam. They are aggressive and pushy and act like the conquering forces. They, and their culture is INVADING all of Europe, and many other parts of the world........it is a SNEAKY ATTACK......SILENT AND SNEAKY.........BUT ONLY TO THE STUPID UNAWARE PEOPLE AND GOVERNMENTS WHO PREFER TO TURN A BLIND EYE TO THE DANGER THAT IMMIGRATION HAS PRODUCED WORLD-WIDE. WHAT RIGHT DO THEY HAVE TO INVADE OUR COUNTRIES, AND PUSH US TO THE SIDE SO TO MAKE ROOM FOR THEM ON THE MAIN ROADS..........THEY ARE RUDE, UNEDUCATED, ARROGANT SON OF A BITCHES!!!! WE SHOULD HONOR AND LOVE OUR OWN CULTURE, NOT ALLOW ISLAM TO POOH, POOH IT, AND MAKE US FEEL ASHAMED OF IT. COME ON EVERYBODY......STICK UP FOR YOUR CULTURE AND YOUR RIGHTS IN YOUR OWN COUNTRIES! THAT'S ALL THAT GEERT IS TRYING TO GET YOU TO DO...............WAKE UP!!!! BEFORE ITS TOO LATE.
Steve 18 September 2009 - 6:26pm
Adil, I don't think you can hold the Dutch populace completely accountable for Mr. Wilder's popularity. Europe has been soft on immigrants that break the law or push non-Western values. It seems you are against the same thing. Wilder's needs to make a better distinction between an immigrant (Muslim or otherwise) that comes to the Netherlands and opens a shop, and the one on Welfare traveling to training camps in Pakistan. It is easy to see which person enriches the Dutch culture and which takes away, or is even hostile, toward it. I think the Dutch are getting fed up with Europe's soft stance on the latter group. Lets just hope Europe does not go to extremes as it has done in the past.
jasmin 18 September 2009 - 1:29pm
Adil, you have taken a balanced view of things. However, I would like to point out that unlike other religious groups, jihadists are more dangerous to mankind. If you see around, almost every country has a jihad nursery, and they are capable of destroying our society. It does not matter that they are:''SMALL minority of so called Muslims''...They are creating terror everywhere! It is the duty of the majority of good muslims like your goodself, to ensure that your kids do not join their cadres and they do not empathise with them for their 'causes'..Remember, all is destroyed in a religious deluge. I wish sanity prevails on this small segment of jihadists. This is our common earth, we cannot have separate earths for different religions.
Adil 18 September 2009 - 4:03pm
Jasmin I agree Jihadists are possibly a greater threat. However, their actions can not be the responsibility of other Muslims since it is against their own personal beliefs. As any good Muslim you condone their actions but how can you prevent a group from participating in such activities...it is not as though the jihadist go around telling people that they are about to commit an act of terrorism. You will note that i used the term 'so called Muslims' because real Muslims do not consider these groups to be true Muslims as it is against Islam to cause the death of innocent people and any act of terrorism leads to the loss of innocent lives and I should point out also the loss of Muslims lives and therefore Muslims do not support their actions. As with any behaviour it is the responsibility of parents to ensure that their children do not get involved in bad behaviour whether that is terrorism or murder. As to your point of every country having a jihad nursery, surely it is the responsibility of the relevant authorities. Any good Muslim, should he or she be aware of such nurseries should report them to the authorities but in many instances they are very underground and the general Muslim population has no idea of their existence. However, i think we are going very much off topic as the issue is whether Gerts remarks are Racist. I do not think they are racist but anti islamic and his earlier suggestions that all muslims should be deported just proves this point. He does not distinguish between good, law abiding citizens and the trouble makers and only seeks to identify problems without offering any real solutions. How will a tax on headscarves address the issue of protecting dutch values? It will only cause further depravation and crime. As for the issue that Muslims fail to integrate...I am truly integrated into British and Dutch society however, it seems that for most people integration means going out at the weekend and getting drunk...is this the kind of integration people would like?
Adil 18 September 2009 - 4:02pm
Jasmin I agree Jihadists are possibly a greater threat. However, their actions can not be the responsibility of other Muslims since it is against their own personal beliefs. As any good Muslim you condone their actions but how can you prevent a group from participating in such activities...it is not as though the jihadist go around telling people that they are about to commit an act of terrorism. You will note that i used the term 'so called Muslims' because real Muslims do not consider these groups to be true Muslims as it is against Islam to cause the death of innocent people and any act of terrorism leads to the loss of innocent lives and I should point out also the loss of Muslims lives and therefore Muslims do not support their actions. As with any behaviour it is the responsibility of parents to ensure that their children do not get involved in bad behaviour whether that is terrorism or murder. As to your point of every country having a jihad nursery, surely it is the responsibility of the relevant authorities. Any good Muslim, should he or she be aware of such nurseries should report them to the authorities but in many instances they are very underground and the general Muslim population has no idea of their existence. However, i think we are going very much off topic as the issue is whether Gerts remarks are Racist. I do not think they are racist but anti islamic and his earlier suggestions that all muslims should be deported just proves this point. He does not distinguish between good, law abiding citizens and the trouble makers and only seeks to identify problems without offering any real solutions. How will a tax on headscarves address the issue of protecting dutch values? It will only cause further depravation and crime. As for the issue that Muslims fail to integrate...I am truly integrated into British and Dutch society however, it seems that for most people integration means going out at the weekend and getting drunk...is this the kind of integration people would like?
jasmin 18 September 2009 - 4:28pm
Adil, I appreciate your integration in the mainstream and your readiness to talk on the tricky issues. If every Muslim is as generous as you are, then no Geert will ever have the opportunity to pin them down socially. As far his remarks are concerned, I have always valued freedom of living as one pleases, Dutch or Non-Dutch, and the Dutch, who value freedom of expression of all forms, must understand this.I do not see why we Easterns should imitate them. As far as jihadists are concerned, Adil, I have seen terrorism, first hand in my state and in the state of Kashmir. Any terrorist group thrives on local support of sympathetic people: out of force or choice. They hide in their houses from police and get their bread and butter from them. The terrorism in my state dried up the moment the local anti-hindu population realised that the Pak sponsored terrorists were now targetting them, similarly, some sanity prevailed in Kashmir, when after ousting 300,000 Hindus, local Muslims realised that now they were the target. These self styled leaders of 'causes' take gullible people as their followers. We can only pray that sanity prevails. Our earth is too beautiful with beautiful people, to be destroyed by these people!
George K. 17 September 2009 - 11:41pm
The surest way to make a monkey of a man is to quote him.
Steve 17 September 2009 - 10:07pm
"The Netherlands is built on freedom of religion and freedom of *speech*." So freedom of speech is reserved for immigrants? I seem to remember the not so distant past when the Netherlands dragged Mr. Wilders into court for exercising his freedom of speech. Also since all Europeans are supposed to be treated equally under the EU constitution, shouldn't Mr. Wilders have had no problem entering the UK even though he continually chooses to exercise his freedom of speech? I also remember him being denied those rights. It seems the EU constitutional rights are only granted to those who follow the mainstream party lines. "We can never be sure that the opinion we are endeavoring to stifle is a false opinion; and if we were sure, stifling it would be an evil still. ~John Stuart Mill, On Liberty, 1859"
Anonymous 17 September 2009 - 8:14pm
what i can see that wilders deliberately divert people from asking the real questions thats is questions that related to NL budget day NL economic situation how to come out from recession
Abdul Okaka 17 September 2009 - 8:13pm
Racist? Probably. Populist and opportunist? Absolutely. But then, he's just another politician who happens to appeal to the masses. Politics, like religion, is about mind control and Wilders knows how to control the minds and appeal to the emotions of those who believe in him. I personally think the media plays a huge role in building his cult. Stop talking about him and he would fade away like dust. On a global scale, he's a nobody.
Arev Beilttog 17 September 2009 - 5:36pm
The media needs to stop inflating this guy's ego.
Anonymous 17 September 2009 - 5:00pm
If Wilders is against extreme Islamists who incite and originate havoc and destruction in this world against innocent people, then one might think that he is expressing the opinion of many reasonable people in this world. To hell with the extreme Islamists;they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind.

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