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EU billions for Roma “go missing”

Published on : 5 September 2010 - 7:00am | By Tijn Sadée (Photo: RNW/Tijn Sadée)
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Europe has failed to get a grip on the estimated 10 million Roma people who live within the European Union. Brussels is pumping billions of euros into projects to improve the lives of the continent’s largest ethnic minority. In spite of this, the Roma remain a headache dossier for many European member states.

In France, police broke up Roma camps up and down the country this summer. At least 8,100 Roma were put on planes to Romania and Bulgaria, the countries they "originally" came from, with a cheque in their hands. Opponents of President Nicolas Sarkozy’s harsh policies called the operation “deportations”. President Sarkozy, supported by a large part of the population, thinks Romania and Bulgaria should do more to look after their returning citizens.

Of course, the Roma are not citizens of Bulgaria or Romania in the ordinary sense. By the very nature of their travelling culture, on a basic level they do not accept the notion of nation states or of citizenship. The fact that many are technically Bulgarian or Romanian is the result of the post-war situation of many Roma in Eastern Europe, where communist regimes forced them to abandon their itinerant lifestyle and conform to the dominant culture. Their children grew up in blocks of flats and were sent to school.

Romania and Bulgaria are being given a lot of European money to look after the Roma. The European Social Fund invests 17.5 billion euros in 'vulnerable groups' in Europe. The lion’s share, more than 13 billion over a period of six years, is earmarked for use with the Roma. "That is an awful lot," says a Brussels researcher who has investigated the amounts paid out.

  • House built in Romania with money earned in West Europe<br>&copy; Photo: RNW/Tijn Sadée - http://www.rnw.nl
  • Traditional wedding in Bulgaria<br>&copy; Photo: RNW/Tijn Sadée - http://www.rnw.nl
  • Two Roma girls in Hungary<br>&copy; Photo: RNW/Tijn Sadée - http://www.rnw.nl
  • Roma begging in Brussels<br>&copy; Photo: RNW/Tijn Sadée - http://www.rnw.nl


Self-regulation

The money which flows to agencies in eastern Europe is extensively checked by the European Commission. But on the subject of how the money is finally spent in, for example, Romania “it is up to the Romanians themselves” says a source within the commission.

"The chance that the money is used for other purposes, is a constant risk," says Romanian MEP Renate Weber.

Her colleague Dennis de Jong of the Dutch Socialist Party goes further, he says a large portion of European money intended for Roma integration projects in eastern Europa “goes missing” . He adds that the European Auditor has been warning for some time that it is impossible to vouch for a lot of the money. It is often a question of corruption.

Political correctness
The political correctness with which West European politicians speak about the problems of Roma, doesn't inhibit discussions in East European politics.  Hungarian, Czech and Bulgarian social workers are adamant: it is evident that Roma are disadvantaged, but what role do Roma themselves play?

"They are responsible for their own negative image," say many people running Roma projects. Their experience is that the Roma are not particularly motivated to change their predicament.

Meanwhile, planeloads of Chinese, Vietnamese and Indians fly into Romania every day to replace the Romanians who are going to work in West European countries. An absurd situation thinks Ms Weber. The Asians are "cheaper and more disciplined workers. While the Roma reject this imposed discipline."

She thinks there is a lot of discrimination on the Romanian labour market. Ms Weber: "Romanian employers prefer to take on Chinese or Vietnamese workers."

On Monday, integration ministers from six EU member states will meet in Paris to discuss a tough deportation policy. President Sarkozy has only invited countries which already take a hard line. The Netherlands is not one of them.

 

Discussion

Nana Saginashvili 9 September 2010 - 1:18pm / Netherlands

INTERNATIONAL Youth Meeting
11-21 October
Maasbree, Netherlands

The meeting will bring together youth from Poland, Netherlands, Turkey and Spain to learn from each other, to exchange the information about their social life and share their opinions and ideas on cultural diversity and tolerance by using main tool: photography.

Intercultural Learning will support the youth mobility, their active participation to develop common projects, give the possibilities young people to get skill and knowledge’s how to write projects.

We would like to involve Roma youth and other minority groups from Netherlands to join this meeting.

The target group:
Young people age group 18-25;
Youth are interesting to experience to live under common roof in different cultural group;
Youth are interesting to experience culture and traditions;
Youth would like to participate in workshops and discussion in different topics;
Have interest in photography and short movie;

Each participant is obliged to
-to respect the opinion and ideas of each persons
-to create the safe environment for each other

Technical information:
The lodging will be organized by hosting organization. The food will be cooked by National group each day. The products will be provided by coordinator organization, you ll stay in multiply rooms.

The youth are interesting to join the meeting contact to: international.youthbridges@gmail.com

Dacia Felix 6 September 2010 - 9:28am / Germany

Dennis de Jong of the Dutch Socialist Party goes further, he says a large portion of European money, intended for Roma integration projects in eastern Europa, “goes missing”. Well, please bring the proof. In which country the money went missing? And when? If de Jong has not any proof of what he is claiming, he is slandering these Eastern European countries.

Anonymous 5 September 2010 - 11:23am

the French have a policy that each commune must supply a "camp site" with electricity and water for the travelling Romas and others. Those who have been sent back are obviously in breach of the French laws. If that is the case, it is right that they are returned to their country. The Romas are their own worst enemy - if there was any respect from them for the Communes and areas in which they chose to live these problems wouldn't arise. It is not the general population's responsibility to supply them with food, shelter and creature comforts. The should be some work ethic.

Hiram2 5 September 2010 - 9:42pm

If the Roma people are citizens of the EU, then they have the same rights as all other citizens of the EU. If the the Roma people don't take heed and walk softly, they are in danger of meeting the same fate as the Jewish people of the 1930s. For whom does the bell toll in the new, European Union?

JW 6 September 2010 - 10:37pm / NL

All minority groups are in danger in this right leaning hothouse political environment. Thanks in part to fearmongers like Hiram, the Muslim minority seems especially at risk of persecution.
How can you fail to see the similarities between the treatment of Jews in the '30s and the vilification of Islam today?

Hiram2 7 September 2010 - 2:06am

"How can you fail to see the similarities between the treatment of Jews in the '30s and the vilification of Islam today?"......The Jewish people of the 1930s (just like the Roma people of today) were persecuted because they were Jewish and Roma and not for committing crimes against humanity such as beheadings and bombings. "Fearmongers" is a response. The response comes from the thousands of negative attributes committed in the name of Islam. When the thousands of Imams from around the war stop the Jihad against innocent people, you will see the "fearmongers" fade away. Who is at risk of Persecution? From the negative events thus far in time, it is anyone who is a non-Believer and the people of the Book! P.S. Not all Muslims are evil and support the Jihad but one does not hear of many of those Muslims speaking against their religious community. Why?

JW 7 September 2010 - 10:46am / NL

Do you hear of many Christians or Jews publicly speaking against their religious community. Why?
You cannot condemn a whole group due to the actions of extremists. Do we lump all Christians together with the American KKK? Do we blame all Jews for the Isreali military attacks on civilians in Gaza? No and no. Islam, like Christianity and Judaism, has extremism within its realm. But the vast majority of adherents of each religion are peaceful.

By fostering an environment of inclusiveness and tolerance we can hope to reduce our differences and the risk of cnflict.

Hiram2 7 September 2010 - 5:46pm

1. "Do you hear of many Christians or Jews publicly speaking against their religious community. Why?"....Because, they are not flying jets, loaded with innocent civilians, into buildings with thousands of people, blowing-up trains trains and murdering innocent people, beheading a news person just because he was Jewish and thousands of crimes. Those crimes were committed in by Islamic Jihadists and they proudly did their crimes in the name of their religion. No, JW, thefre is not comparison between Christians/Jews with the crimes committed in the name of Jihad. 2. "Do we lump all Christians together with the American KKK?" The KKK are not Christians and they are not and have not declared a Jihad. When they commit their crimes, the US government goes after them, prosecutes them, and puts them into prison. 3. "Do we blame all Jews for the Isreali military attacks on civilians in Gaza?" Those citizens of Gaza allow their fellow citizens to fire thousand of rockets into Israel each year. Those military attacks are a response to terrorists attacks. JW, you don't say who "we" are. 3. "Islam, like Christianity and Judaism, has extremism within its realm. But the vast majority of adherents of each religion are peaceful." I can accept and do realise this statement but Christianity and Judaism via their preachers and Rabbis have not declared a holy war against Muslims. JW, I have no problems with Muslims, Christians, or Jews but I do have a problem with any religion and it's religious leaders who send out their Jihadist soldiers to murder in the name of their god and religion. Tolerance is the major cause of the problems in the world today. Tolerance! How can one be tolerant of a Muslim imam who wants to behead a politician and sends a message to other Muslims in the Netherlands to commit the act. The imams of Islam can foster kindness and goodwill by standing-up against those imams. Extremist immams and their declaration of a "holy war" are the ones who have brought on the negative image of Islam. Let the majority of the immams in the world come-out and openly denounce those immams who hurt Islam's image and you will see a vast change in the perception of both Muslims and non-Muslims.

JW 7 September 2010 - 8:06pm / NL

1. Hiram, draw up a scorecard and judge each major religion by the number of people murdered by its adherents. I understand that you hate Islam. But using this metric, Christianity has behaved far worse both before and after the start of 'the war on terror'. Look at the Crusades, Kosovo, Iraq, Afghanistan. Judging all of Islam because of the actions of a few defies logic.
2. Not all US KKK members get prosecuted. Some live to a ripe old age in the US senate. Robert Byrd, for one.
3. The women and children of Gaza don't fire rockets into Isreal, militants do. Civilians die on both sides and it is tragic. Most imams preach peace and understanding. You've got the tolerance thing backwards. There is no road to peace through racism and hatred. Throughout history, societies which tolerated different groups are the ones which lasted the longest. I understand that your fury is deeply rooted and don't expect you to agree with me. But maybe you should pick up a history book sometime. It won't bite.

Hiram2 7 September 2010 - 10:25pm

"But using this metric, Christianity has behaved far worse both before and after the start of 'the war on terror'. Look at the Crusades, Kosovo, Iraq, Afghanistan. Judging all of Islam because of the actions of a few defies logic."......I am sorry but your perceived logic defies logic. When you brought-up the Crusades and the other wars going on around the world as a justification for the Islamic terrorism in the world today, I knew your logic was defective. I have read a history book and have read it several times. It is very descriptive in how one (Believers) shouldn't be tolerant of non-Believers and the people of the Book. JW, picking-up a history book is easy. Try reading one with an open mind! Now, that is challenge for a person who believes terrorism in today's time is justified by a 1,000-year-old war (Crusades)!

JW 7 September 2010 - 10:45pm / NL

My intent was to establish that hatred of an entire religion based on the actions of a few is foolish. But I suspect you read that 'history book' with the same level of understanding as you did my comment.
The heart that's filled with hatred is yours. I won't comment further. Peace.

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