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Sunday 26 October  
Ethicist Heleen Dupuis
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The Hague, Netherlands
The Hague, Netherlands

"Dutch would have stopped treating Prince Friso"

Published on : 3 August 2012 - 1:14pm | By Wim Jansen (Photo: ANP)
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An influential Dutch ethicist has said that if Queen Beatrix’s son, Prince Johan Friso, had been hospitalised in the Netherlands after his ski accident, doctors would have already stopped his treatment.

Heleen Dupuis, who is a member of the Dutch Upper House for the ruling Liberal Party (VVD), said, “it’s questionable whether the prince will ever have a normal life again. I understand that the chances are extremely small.” According to the ethicist, “had the prince been sent to a Dutch hospital, doctors would have probably turned off the life support system because there is such a slim possibility that he will ever recover.”
 
Prince Friso suffered severe brain damage after he was trapped in an avalanche, while skiing in Austria in February. He is in a coma at Wellington Hospital in London. Doctors say the chances he will recover are minimal.
 
There’s a growing debate in the Netherlands about how far doctors should go in treating patients. Health care is becoming unaffordable for two reasons. On the one hand, people are ageing and need more medical care, and on the other extremely expensive drugs are being developed for very rare diseases that used to be fatal. The Dutch are asking whether society should pay 50,000 euros to extend a cancer patient’s life by six months. The discussion is likely to play a role in the political campaigns for the general elections on September 12. 

 

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Dan Allan 17 April 2014 - 5:20pm / uk

I was commenting on assisted suiside it seems one unamed person has problem with my spelling maybe this person needs compare prices various words in us dictionary and go online check uk dictionary spelling s u will find we spel various very differently but in life everyone has weakness mine is spelling due too disability reasons maybe some people are too quick to judge and find why uk spell things differently than make judgements. Dan

Catalpa 4 October 2013 - 10:45pm / Scotland

The sooner Johan Friso's whole family is vegetised like him the better for humanity. They are all Bilderberg eugenecists and they are going to kill ALL of us unless we awaken and stand up to these criminal elite scumbags. They are the NWO planners and implementers and you Dutch idiots need to stop bowing down to Beatrix and her lucky sperm club brood before they destroy you. Wake up and smell the coffee, you are their cattle, Moooo, you are their debt slaves. They own the central banks that create all of your debt from nothing. It's called money. Money is debt. You all are indebted to THEM. Wisen up!,,

Dan Reed 9 February 2013 - 9:26am / Uk

At least we the most ill the fair chance too fight life compared too holland, Switzerland and other eu countries too emit tells me the Dutch royal family don't think highly of their medicinal services if they did prince Johan would not be in one of the best private hospitals in the uk critical care. But being in in and out of being in and out of not being awake lightly as they state in Dutch and UK and world press I suspect doctors are properly guiding them too switch the machine off as its been solo long since the accident I guess as oxygen too the brain will be limited and infections even even in the best private hospital would very possibly be rife too with all this against prince Johan I think it would kinder too switch his machine off now than suffer anymore as I have worked with acute AI cases whom have no quality of life and being stared at because somebody looks odd or different is awful suffering as I should with severe squint and poorly legs yet somebody whims even more serve rely disable like prince Johan there's no quality of life dispute what pro life campaigners say yet goes out too the Dutch family at this time Dan UK

Dan Reed 6 February 2013 - 8:02am / United Kingdom

On the side assisting the really ill and dying to die happens on a regular basis in the UK without relatives knowing as I witness a old man being helped too die without his consent and the consent of his family worse thing was he shouted help help the then went into cardiac arrest with no family around him it was awful to witness because his family did not know and worse thing is he was alone when he died as I was unable to get out of my bed poor bloke I say assisted dying must regulated far ore strongly as it is as at present I feel the vulnerable are being neglected as their families in the uk NHS system I rather pay into a affordable healthcare system than the crumbling healthcare system we have now get better soon prince Johan

Anonymous 19 March 2013 - 2:26pm / USA

Wow, is this person really in British health care???? Apparently he doesn't even speak English. I wonder what that says about English health care if their professionals can barely read and write English.

adriana.B 29 December 2012 - 1:47am / Canada.

The Dutch Prins in coma:
I believe nobody should worry about the cost of his healthcare. His Mom is very wealthy and does not give up as a mother.
When it is in the plan of God to heal him,it will happen.The Drs will get the wisdom to give him the best care.
Bless The house of Orange.
A.E.B.

Anonymous 25 October 2012 - 11:05pm / U.S.A.

The Prince really impressed us here in the United States with his wit, charm, and being down to earth. Unfortunately, his appointed gaurdians submitted his resignation to Urenco and I am affraid we will no longer be appraised of his condition. We all pray for him and hope for his wife and daughters sake that he fully recovers. God answers prayers.

Anonymous 21 October 2012 - 7:45pm

I am sure she is right, I lived there and I can say the health care system is just horrible. They just do the mnimum for you, you can die before getting to a specialist, prevention does not exist, you have to pay to deliver in the hospital (and leave anyway 2 hours after delivery). There is really nothing to be proud abou, they only care about money.

Anonymous 20 October 2012 - 3:47am / USA

Give high dosis of fish oil the brain will repair, check two treatments in the USA,US doctors traeyed Randall McCloy and Bobby Ghassemi

Devendrakumar joshi 19 October 2012 - 2:32am / India

Prince friso will be fully fit and normal as before with spiritual healing treatment, when doctors feels helpless this treatment works very effectively. so allow me to perform.
God bless to all.
Devendra kumar joshi
spiritual healor

Mabelanne 5 February 2013 - 5:09pm / Australia

Nutters take note, this is absolute rubbish. Sympathy to Prince Friso's family.

Monica D 30 September 2012 - 9:42am / Norway

Well, seeing as Prince Friso opened his eyes and smiled at his wife (if only briefly), I would say it seems his chances of recovery are increasing. True, he hasn´t slipped completely out of the coma. But he has a chance. A chance he would never have had if doctors had demanded to take him off life support.

Jen Bruin 2 October 2012 - 3:31pm / Scotland

I just looked back here to see if anyone had said anything else - if the above is true then I'm awfully glad I did. Best thing I've heard all day. Whoever is a praying person, keep praying!

Monica D. 19 November 2012 - 9:46pm / Norway

Yes, he really does seem to be getting better. At least according to the news I have read. He has supposedly woken up on more than one occasion. Keeping my fingers crossed and praying he will make a full recovery.

Jen Bruin 15 August 2012 - 12:03pm / Scotland, UK

Well it's a mercy he had the accident in Austria and lives in London, if that's the case. Two things we say here: " 'maybe' is a big book", and "sometimes you have to be long ill to be long well". I look forward to him giving everyone a bigger surprise by getting through this.

BJM 14 August 2012 - 4:51am / usa

Without people who need these treatments how do they think that they playing God will come up with any cures.

Anneke Verschoor_Haan 8 August 2012 - 11:18am / The Netherlands

I think the decision to treat or to stop the treatment is up to the specialists and doctors. Listen to the patient, whatever he/she wants is important too. Money should never be an issue, if you could benefit a treatment you deserve it. I hate a society which is only looking at the price/costs of everything.let us be more human and have empathy .... Sorry about my grammar.

Marian 8 August 2012 - 1:55am / USA

Only Friso's physicians and his closest relatives know the true nature and severity of his condition. The general public has only been told that this condition may not be reversible. For an ethicist, particularly, and the public, in general to speculate about the probability of euthanizing him is inappropriate and spurious.

Anonymous 5 August 2012 - 8:38pm

No price should be put on any life.The main duty and ethical principle of a medical doctor must and should be to try to cure and save lives, and not terminate lives.

Anonymous 5 August 2012 - 8:33pm / lalaland

There is no wealth but life.

Anonymous 5 August 2012 - 11:24am / The Netherlands

How can the Dutch put a price on life??? That is unethical. We spend our lives consumed and ruled by something that we have created.......a piece of paper. I think it is fundamentally wrong to discuss money when considering someone's right to life.

Anonymous 28 January 2013 - 6:50pm

It s this thinking that money does not play any role in patient care which makes me mad. What if the money could be used for childhood diseases/disorders? Is it unethical to think about the efficiency to save 100 lives instead of one?

Tony Russo 5 August 2012 - 3:50am / USA

Mrs. Heleen Dupuis,
On your August 3rd comment regarding the stopping of Prince Friso's treatment: Madaam, you will yet see the significance of his remaining alive. When he is taken off of all life support he will regain consciousness with his full faculties in tack. When it happens feel free to contact me so that I can explain why he has miraculously been healed.

Valerius 14 September 2012 - 1:30pm / USA

Um ... say what??

Gotta love the lunatic fringe. Just not here, though. Take your tacky self someplace else, please.

Anonymous 4 August 2012 - 9:00pm

They happily take your money when you are healthy. You have no choice on paying the health insurance or not. Then you also pay when you see a doctor. And then when you are old and sick you must disappear, otherwise they would have to pay your money back. And of course your money went on cool buildings and expensive cars at the insurance companies. That's organized robbery, absolutely no feeling for the sick ones. How much did the old cancer patient pay during his lifetime? Maybe 50 000 euros? Is it not his right to be cared for when in need?

Chris B 3 August 2012 - 4:35pm / USA

Good grief, this is a terrible article.

It makes two claims: "the Dutch would euthanize" and "the Dutch are looking at the cost of healthcare". So, the reader is left to assume that the Dutch will kill old or sick people because it's too expensive to treat them.

The author, Wim Jansen, does a wonderful job of completely ignoring the protections that exist in the Netherlands AGAINST ending of life carelessly.

BJM 14 August 2012 - 4:54am

Welcome to socialism, and obamacare. It IS coming here.

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