well its contained and somewhat accepted than in the us. why not be upfront then hide it?

This is an issue that seems to be a topic of debate here in the US as well. However, we have yet to legalize it everywhere. First and foremost, kids are going to smoke weed. I think education is going to be the key and teaching them responsibility. People are always content on trying to fight what you don't want (in this case kids smoking weed) but never really address why the kids are doing it. I think they (as well as the US) are fighting a losing battle when it comes to this drug.

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Mayor Cohen is right, the ban on coffee shops less than 250m from a school is ridiculous. The children aren't getting their drugs from the coffee shops so what's the point? You're just closing down businesses and putting people out of a job. If he's going to crack down on drugs with children the solution is easy. Go after the people selling the drugs to them, give them a large prison term to deter them from selling drugs. Also, he should be going after the parents. If the parents don't want to take care of their children, or at least try to deter them from drugs, hit the parents. Fine the parents whenever their children are caught with drugs. That would wake up a lot of parents and take control of their children, the solution lies with the parents.

For those of you who are still living in some strange parallel universe, one where prohibition actually works, here is part of the testimony of Judge Alfred J Talley, given before the Senate Hearings of 1926:

"For the first time in our history, full faith and confidence in and respect for the hitherto sacred Constitution of the United States has been weakened and impaired because this terrifying invasion of natural rights has been engrafted upon the fundamental law of our land, and experience has shown that it is being wantonly and derisively violated in every State, city, and hamlet in the country."

"It has made potential drunkards of the youth of the land, not because intoxicating liquor appeals to their taste or disposition, but because it is a forbidden thing, and because it is forbidden makes an irresistible appeal to the unformed and immature. It has brought into our midst the intemperate woman, the most fearsome and menacing thing for the future of our national life."

"It has brought the sickening slime of corruption, dishonor, and disgrace into every group of employees and officials in city, State, and Federal departments that have been charged with the enforcement of this odious law."

http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/HISTORY/e1920/senj1926/judgetalley.htm

And the following paragraphs are from WALTER E. EDGE's testimony, a Senator from New Jersey:

"Any law that brings in its wake such wide corruption in the public service, increased alcoholic insanity, and deaths, increased arrests for drunkenness, home barrooms, and development among young boys and young women of the use of the flask never heard of before prohibition can not be successfully defended."

"I unhesitatingly contend that those who recognize existing evils and sincerely endeavor to correct them are contributing more toward temperance than those who stubbornly refuse to admit the facts."

"The opposition always proceeds on the theory that give them time and they will stop the habit of indulging in intoxicating beverages. This can not be accomplished. We should recognize our problem is not to persist in the impossible, but to recognize a situation and bring about common-sense temperance through reason."

"This is not a campaign to bring back intoxicating liquor, as is so often claimed by the fanatical dry. Intoxicating liquor is with us to-day and practically as accessible as it ever was. The difference mainly because of its illegality, is its greater destructive power, as evidenced on every hand. The sincere advocates of prohibition welcome efforts for real temperance rather than a continuation of the present bluff."

http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/HISTORY/e1920/senj1926/walteredge.htm

And here is Julien Codman's testimony, who was a member of the Massachusetts bar.

"we will produce additional evidence on this point, that it is not appropriate legislation to enforce the eighteenth amendment; that it has done incredible harm instead of good; that as a temperance measure it has been a pitiable failure; that it as failed to prevent drinking; that it has failed to decrease crime; that, as a matter of fact, it has increased both; that it has promoted bootlegging and smuggling to an extent never known before"

"We believe that the time has come for definite action, but it is impossible to lay before Congress any one bill which, while clearly within the provisions of the Constitution, will be a panacea for the evils that the Volstead Act has caused. We must not be vain enough to believe, as the prohibitionists do, that the age-old question of the regulation of alcohol can be settled forever by the passage of a single law. With the experience of the Volstead law as a warning, it behooves us to proceed with caution, one step at a time, to climb out of the legislative well into which we have been pushed."

"If you gentlemen are satisfied, after hearing the evidence supplemented by the broad general knowledge which each of you already possesses, that the remedy that will tend most quickly to correct the wretched social conditions that now exist, to promote temperance, find to allay the discontent and unrest that the Volstead Act has caused, is to be found in the passage of one of the proposed bills legalizing the production of beer of an alcoholic content of 4 per cent or less. We do not claim that it will do away with all the evils produced by attempted prohibition, but it would be a step in the right direction."

http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/HISTORY/e1920/senj1926/codman.htm

I wonder why Cohen refuses to budge? Cohen if creating distance is not an effective solution, may I ask what solution you would put on the table to protect children? Your solution appears to be that any laws against soft drugs is too much. Don't you care the welfare and safety of the children in your community? It appears not!

"Major Cohen, however, refuses to budge, “research amongst Amsterdam teachers and teenagers proves that creating distance between schools and coffee shops is not an effective solution to the problem,” he argues. “Amsterdam’s coffee shops have an age restriction and this restriction is strictly enforced…most teenagers obtain soft drugs through secondary parties, and do not go to coffee shops directly.”..........I wonder why Cohen refuses to budge? Cohen if creating distance is not an effective solution, may I ask what solution you would put on the table to protect children? Your solution appears to be that any laws against soft drugs is too much. Don't you care the welfare and safety of the children in your community? It appears not!
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Job Cohen is right, the 250m rule is pointless, unless of course that every school kid never goes outside of the 250m exclusion zone! i.e. they are no life bubble children, maybe that would be a good thing though if it happens that all the churches are outside their bubble too.

Children don't get drugs from upstanding moral shop keepers, they get them from street dealers and unscrupulous shop keepers (like with alcohol & tobacco), it is easier to keep checks and regulations on legit shop keepers than the largely invisible street dealers and the high demand for street dealers only exist because of morally corrupt, idiotic prohibitions on legitimate markets.

To me, these distance rules are a bit of a joke. What difference would it make if the Coffee Shop is 250m or 300m - or in the US, the liquor store is 1000' from a school? If I was still in school, having the coffee shop/liquor store being next to the school would be the deterant - ie, the head teacher or others watching me go in and out - I would certainly opt for a coffee shop/liquor store out of sight, ie at least 250m away!

"Major Cohen, however, refuses to budge, “research amongst Amsterdam teachers and teenagers proves that creating distance between schools and coffee shops is not an effective solution to the problem,” he argues. “Amsterdam’s coffee shops have an age restriction and this restriction is strictly enforced…most teenagers obtain soft drugs through secondary parties, and do not go to coffee shops directly.”..........I wonder why Cohen refuses to budge? Cohen if creating distance is not an effective solution, may I ask what solution you would put on the table to protect children? Your solution appears to be that any laws against soft drugs is too much. Don't you care the welfare and safety of the children in your community? It appears not!