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Dutch MPs condemn Indian minister's anti-gay remarks

Published on : 10 July 2011 - 9:45am | By Johan van Slooten (Photo by Vinayak Das [flickr.com])
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The Dutch cabinet should voice its concern about anti-gay remarks made by India's Health Minister Ghulam Nabi Azad, says Dutch democrat party D66. “Our foreign and emancipation ministers should strongly oppose these remarks,” says D66 leader Alexander Pechtold. “They should also work within the EU towards a joint condemnation.”

Earlier this week, Mr Azad branded homosexuality “a disease” and “absolutely unnatural”. Gay organisations in India and abroad reacted furiously, calling for Mr Azad to resign.

He later apologised and said he had been misquoted.

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D66 MP Pia Dijkstra describes Mr Azad's remarks as abhorrent: “We have to consistently oppose such discriminatory comments,” she says. “They will only hamper the fight against HIV and AIDS in a country where 2.5 million people are HIV-positive."

In India, 7.3 percent of gay men are HIV-positive, compared to only 0.3 percent of heterosexual men.

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Only last week, Dutch Foreign Minister Uri Rosenthal briefly visited New Delhi for talks with his Indian counterpart S.M. Krishna. They discussed security and economic issues, and India's poor human rights record on child labour. Mr Rosenthal invited Mr Krishna to visit the Netherlands.

Mr Azad made his anti-gay remarks after Mr Rosenthal's visit.

Dutch Deputy Agriculture Minister Henk Bleker is set to visit India shortly. Mr Pechtold has called on him to raise the anti-gay issue during his trip.

 

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Discussion

Hiram1 12 July 2011 - 5:35pm

My disposition is the result of those who have acquired an affinity for the unnatural and then push a world agenda to make the unnatural, natural. You asked: "How can you tell? How can we?" My response is: "It is not a disease but acquired behaviour. It is not “absolutely unnatural” but natural for those who have been slowly conditioned into the lifestyle. It is only unnatural for those who have not been conditioned to such a lifestyle." If you believe it is natural, then it is natural. I believe it is unnatural and therefore it is unnatural. You make the decision for yourself and if you believe you are right, then stand-up for what you think is right. If, I believe something is unnatural, I don't standby and not say anything. That is why I responded to your questions.

Anonymous 12 July 2011 - 6:19pm

So you're arguing that your disposition is an acquired condition. Do you think you could be cured or corrected?

Hiram1 12 July 2011 - 7:43pm

Before, I answer your question be kind enough to tell me if you "think you could be cured or corrected"? Now, don't get off the question of being cured or corrected. I bet you don't answer my question because I believe you think people are born into the world with their behaviours. You asked a question and I asked a question. Can you be cured or corrected? Do you want to be cured or corrected? Do you justify your behaviours by asking such a question? You will not anwswer because you believe you are right. If you didn't believe so, you would not justify yourself. Waiting for your response.

Anonymous 13 July 2011 - 9:02am

You sensed a trap and decided to shut up. Thanks for the entertainment. Some tips: In the future, you should probably not argue that your beliefs are caused by society's elements. You should argue that your position is simply true and self evident. Otherwise, your right intlerance is just as invalid as that which you despise. You're welcome.
Can I be cured of my penchant for ridiculing you? I doubt it.

Hiram1 13 July 2011 - 4:17pm

No, I knew you wouldn't and couldn't answer your own question. I ask the question with a question because I knew you couldn't be cured. What you have to do is modify your behaviour and why would you do that? First, you were conditioned from the moment you entered into the world by others. Second, once you became conditioned to believe your behaviours were normal, you continue with the behaviourst. Third, when you tell yourself and others that you were born with your behaviours, your attempt was a self-justification to make you feel better with something you have a conflict with. In closing and in the future, if you believe something is normal, then it is normal for "you". When you make excuses for your behaviours, you don't support yourself. It is a contradiction. As to your statement "Can I be cured of my penchant for ridiculing you? I doubt it." You are right about not being able to cure yourself. It is part of your acquired persona and your way to support an argument you know you can't justify. If you want to learn about human behaviours, you might go to school and get you a degree in psychology or sociology. I recommend you get one in sociology. You got caught in your own trap, my friend.

Anonymous 13 July 2011 - 5:47pm

I clearly wrote that I couldn't be cured. Your hesitance to answer suggests you couldn't be either. Gays and lesbians don't need to be cured because their love is naturally occurring and healthy. I'll leave you alone now because it seems like you may have suffered a stroke. Sorry if I caused that.

Hiram1 13 July 2011 - 5:56pm

You clearly don't even understand what you wrote. Read your opinion, again.

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Hiram1 10 July 2011 - 5:31pm

"The Dutch cabinet should voice its concern about anti-gay remarks made by India's Health Minister Ghulam Nabi Azad, says Dutch democrat party D66."....Now, if one is a "health minister" as he is, then one would think that he is qualified to make a medical opinion as he did. Now, I am sure that his statement of "“a disease” and “absolutely unnatural” was twisted out of proportion. I believe is opinion is off. It is not a disease but acquired behaviour. It is not “absolutely unnatural” but natural for those who have been slowly conditioned into the lifestyle. It is only unnatural for those who have not been conditioned to such a lifestyle.

Anonymous 12 July 2011 - 1:16pm

And what about your disposition, Hiram? Is it a disease or is it acquired behavior as well? How can you tell? How can we?

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