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Ranjit Edwards
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Branded an asylum seeker

Published on : 17 November 2010 - 12:14pm | By Sebastiaan Gottlieb (Photo: RNW)
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On becoming the Netherlands' new prime minister, Marc Rutte said being an illegal immigrant would be made punishable by law. From the stories being told by foreigners held at Amsterdam Schiphol Airport’s detention centre, people without valid papers are now being treated like criminals.

Ranjit Edwards from Sri Lanka is one such foreigner who landed almost by chance in Schiphol Airport’s detention centre. He has lived and worked in Sweden for years, but was held while changing planes at Schiphol because his visa for Sweden was not valid. Following advice from Dutch immigration officials, he decided to request asylum in the Netherlands and get a lawyer to arrange for him to continue his journey to Sweden.

This led to him being branded an asylum seeker and landing in Schiphol detention centre. He found himself in the company of illegal immigrants picked up in the Netherlands and other asylum seekers waiting to see whether they would be granted Dutch residence.

Diary
His diary shows how Mr Edwards’ life turned into a nightmare:

“I’m now just number 273.690.5417.

Arriving in the detention centre is a degrading experience. One of the officials laughs at me because asylum seekers don’t have as much luggage as I do. I have to hand everything over, wallet, mobile telephone, laptop and pen.

I have to take my clothes off and be inspected.

I have to bend over a number of times, completely naked, to have my anus checked for drugs.

I’m not allowed to use my phone. I’m not allowed to contact my girlfriend in Sweden, my family in Australia, the Swedish embassy or my employer.”

One paracetamol
Mr Edwards says asylum seekers are treated like liars who are trying to enter the Netherlands under false pretences, an untrustworthy group of swindlers.

The health care provided illegal aliens is shown in a particularly bad light in his diary. If someone is ill, a doctor is only available the following day. “Toothache, headache or acute appendicitis, they all have to wait for treatment. The only treatment in an emergency is one paracetamol per 24 hours.”

Guards bring prescription medicine to those who are ill far too late, even in the case of antibiotics. Many questions are left unanswered in the cases of two asylum seekers, one from Ghana and the other from Kenya, who died at the Schiphol detention centre.

The Dutch Justice Ministry praises the work done by the guards at detention centres for aliens. In a 2009 report, public health inspectors were positive about the medical care offered by the centres.

  • Detention Center Schiphol Airport<br>&copy; Image: RNW - http://www.rnw.nl

Discussion

Hiram2 30 November 2010 - 8:10pm

Sebastiaan, the paragraph "The Dutch Justice Ministry praises the work done by the guards at detention centres for aliens. In a 2009 report, public health inspectors were positive about the medical care offered by the centres." was not quoted in the article. Don't you think your readers would like to know: Who at the Dutch, Justice Ministry praised the work done by the guards. If, no one specific person stated it or the sign the document confirming it, how arethe readers suppose to know and verify the statement. It is to make a statement without using quotes and readers like me are the one's most likely to do it, but a journalist reports verifiable facts. He investigates, gather the facts, and presents it to the pubic. The report was weak and did not support Mr. Edwards claim. In his diary, he made several claims about his reception and his stay at the detention center. He gave you the lead and you dropped the ball and did not report both sides. When you did do something, you failed to give credit to those who you investigated at the Justice Ministry. Sebastiaan, please don't think I am trying to be rude becauseI am not. I am a person who sees things in a critical way. You may be right and I am sorry if you got offended but I don't think you did. Journalist don't get offended, right?

Hiram2 21 November 2010 - 6:52pm

Cobber in the G...The reporter did not use quotes and failure to use quotes did not support your claims. Just saying something was a diary, does not allow reporter to add his opinion. He gave you credit on onequote only under the section "One paracetamol" and it was "Mr Edwards says asylum seekers are treated like liars who are trying to enter the Netherlands under false pretences, an untrustworthy group of swindlers."; but he did not give credit to you are anyone on these statements: "Guards bring prescription medicine to those who are ill far too late, even in the case of antibiotics. Many questions are left unanswered in the cases of two asylum seekers, one from Ghana and the other from Kenya, who died at the Schiphol detention centre.

The Dutch Justice Ministry praises the work done by the guards at detention centres for aliens. In a 2009 report, public health inspectors were positive about the medical care offered by the centres." { In case of thereporter, what he did was insert his opinions into the article because one could not tell by his style of journalism who was speaking. He also did something in jouranlism which is not normally done. He used the title Mr, twice, when once was sufficent. Once you introduce a person in an article, you don't keep repeating t, titles. You introduce them with their title and after you just say the name. Also when he wrote your story or as you say a diary, he should have investigated both sides. You made accusations to a reporter (which I think is positive) and the reporter should have followed-up by investigating. His article did not reflect any investigations into the polices for admitting, housing detainees, and their welfare while in detention. His article did not support you, the government or both of you............{ You stated "To answer, how I know when antibiotics were brought, I was administered antibiotics for an infection I contracted within those walls. And it was on me, that dosage was missed. And, I did chart the times it was administered to me. My emeregency was of far more concern than a toothache or headache! The reporter was not wrong in what he wrote." Again, the reporter was wrong and here is what he wrote and he did not quote "Guards bring prescription medicine to those who are ill far too late, even in the case of antibiotics." Now, you are saying you know because you were referring to yoursself but the reporter wrote "TO THOSE". Now, if he isn't wrong why would he use the word "those"? Those implies more then one person. Now, if it as you said, and it was you and not the reporter, how can you speak for those other detainees. That is why I asked the questions how could you know when anoter detainee's medicines were due. You might have told the reporter it was you but he used the wrong word "those". He wrote a very biased report which was not clear and factual and used the word "diary" to cover-up his poor, jouranlistic writing skills. { In closing, I have empathy for those who are detained and who had their freedoms suspended. I have experienced first hand by working with people who were detained/incarcerated, over the last thirty-five years, the experiences you described; but, I also know that when someone is detained and the government doesn't know the background of the person, the government has the responsibility to protect not just the detainee but the other detainees, staff, and public. They are security precautions. I hope the best for you and good luck. As to the reporter, please do some research and don't fall into the "diary trap" as I have seen with some other RNW reporters. Investigate, gather your facts, and write your report without personal biases/opinions. You didn't do yourself, Mr Edwards, or the Dutch government any justification.

Cobber in the G... 21 November 2010 - 9:51pm / Netherlands

You said, 'The Dutch Justice Ministry praises the work done by the guards at detention centres for aliens'. Is that not a case of a monkey praising its own tail?. The detention centre at Schiphol is supervised and administered by the Immigration Policy Department, - which develops policy on immigration, naturalisation and relief to asylum seekers- and this department is an arm of the Ministry of Justice and Security. Correct me, if I am wrong on that.

I must commend you for your service of 35 years (as I understand it is not easy even on those that work there) and thank you for the wishes.

sebastiaan 24 November 2010 - 6:45pm

The quote "The Dutch Justice Ministry praises the work done by the guards at detention centres for aliens' comes from a report by the detention commission on sentences (commissie sanctietoepassing) It was provided to me by the ministry of justice. They emphasized it was an independent commission. So it was not my opinion.

Hiram2 22 November 2010 - 12:10am

Sir, the statement "'The Dutch Justice Ministry praises the work done by the guards at detention centres for aliens'. was made by the reporter and not by me. The reporter made it and did he didn't quote anyone, therefore I assumed it was his opinion. The reporter did not do a good job. Anyway, good luck!

sebastiaan 24 November 2010 - 6:47pm / the netherlands

The quote "The Dutch Justice Ministry praises the work done by the guards at detention centres for aliens' comes from a report by the detention commission on sentences (commissie sanctietoepassing) It was provided to me by the ministry of justice. They emphasized it was an independent commission. So it was not my opinion.

Anonymous 18 November 2010 - 3:40pm / Lalaland

I can tell you the real story of a lawyer in Los Angeles, California who had to see a detainee at the Alta Road detention centre near the US-Mexican border. The attorney, a US citizen, made a wrong turn near the border and ended up in Mexico, without knowing it actually; when he tried to enter back into the US , US border patrol agents stopped him asked him for his passport; he had no one but only a California driver license. He was detained for one day at the immigration detention center and what he most resented was the fact that the US immigration agents made him feel that they did him a great favor to allow him back into the United States. The lesson is: always carry all your legal documents with you and don't let expire any of them.

Hiram2 17 November 2010 - 11:15pm

Van der Scoot, you stated "Hiram you did a good job of throwing stones at this poor bloke's "glass house". First and foremost, the cobber built his house of glass by not having his paperwork, (visa) in order by keeping it up-to-date. Second, just because he made a mistake, does not mean the Dutch authorites should make a far worse mistake by letting him travel in an airplane full of people who had their paperwork correct and expected to be protected by the Dutch authorties. Third, his complaint about his search was weak and is necessary security in a detention center. It prevents introduction of contraband into a secured facility which is not only to detain but to protect the other detainees and staff. Fourth, until detainees have been cleared of any potential threats, it is not prudent to allow anyone to use a phone in order to warn others. Fifth, his complaints against the medical system in place is biased. He states (or the reporter states because the reporter did not quote) "Guards bring prescription medicine to those who are ill far too late, even in the case of antibiotics". Now how did he know guards bring precription drugs far too late for the ill? Did he chart the times of ever ill person who required anticiotics? Did he see the prescriptions? Did he have an emergence requiring medicines for "Toothache, headache or acute appendicitis"? Fifth, the reporter who wrote this article wrote a biased report and made statements without a quote. The report stated (using my quotes) "Guards bring prescription medicine to those who are ill far too late, even in the case of antibiotics. Many questions are left unanswered in the cases of two asylum seekers, one from Ghana and the other from Kenya, who died at the Schiphol detention centre." Now did the detainee make this statement or did the reporter? The reporter lack the investigative skills to interview an offical at the detention center about the exact requirements for a person who is being detain? Ask for the policy statement for admitting a detainee and the policy statement for treating an ill detain? Ask why they are not allow to make a telephone call? In closing, RNW, via it's reporter, did an injustice to those who protect the Dutch and other travellers by reporting a story without checking the facts. The cobber built his house in glass and it had cracks in it. He and he only caused himself to be detained.

Cobber in the G... 21 November 2010 - 2:35pm / Netherlands

This is the cobber in the 'glass house'.

Hiram, thank you for your perspective on things. Without a doubt, my oversight on something I should have given importance to, was the primary cause of it. In that context, I have none to blame but myself. A lesson, that I have had to learn the hard way and one that I will never forget. I am sure you are aware that it was not a deliberate attempt to get into the EU knowing well that I will not be allowed in. In that backdrop, maybe the article is not clear. That also has to do with trying to related an event in the shortest possible way. Which gives room to a lot of speculations. In that light, let me clear something.

After moving to Sweden in 2005 (legally), I was issued my personnummer with the intention of my eligibility for citizenship in 2011. In 2008, I got an assignment in Oman. Completed it in 2009 and was going back home. Before I left, I did realise that my passport was about to expire. Went to the Sri Lanka embassy, who told me that I must go back to my place of residence. Which obviously was Swden. In that respect, they did issue me with a one month extention. At Schiphol, as you know the story. They insisted that i need a visa. Well, to prove my case, I provided them with my swedish personnummer (which is only given to residents and citizens), tax papers, my voter rights, and even proof of address. They even called my bank in Sweden to confirm my documents and the validity of my Swedish ID card.

But then, when an officer tells me, you are either telling the whole truth, or you are one good conman, it takes the whole story to another level. And then tells me, they need to check the originality of my passport. For goodness sake, what were they expecting? The president of Sri Lanka to confirm it? That afternoon, they said a decision was made. Their advice was - with best of intentions - that I ask for asylum, and when I got into the application centre, I explain my situation with the help of my lawyer, and that they will help with that. So there you go. That is the exact picture on that front.

I have no qulams with the dutch authorities having to follow their rules. As that is what I would expect from any state authority.

While in detention, in total desperation, I made 3 written request, to have my passport fixed before it expires. At my court hearing, the judge clearly said, that I do NOT want asylum. And that arrangements be made for me to be taken to the embassy to fix things. And surely, I would have left instantly. But, that too was ignored. That was where they misarably failed. A failure that has cost the dutch tax-payers more than, just a few trips to my embassy.

Something that the article was and is trying to high light is the flaws in the detention centre. It is not just a detention centre. It has all the signs and characteristics of a prison. The very fact that in a given 24-hour day, one is put in a locked confined cell for nearly 15 hours is madness. The balance hour outside, is just within the block (for 40 odd detainees), an open spacing that is not over 20 metres by 5 metres. Protected by prison fencing all around (including the roof) and additonally electric fencing.

Of course doing a full body search for the right reason, does make sense. I am all for that. But to do a body search on someone who has spent a little over a week, in the application centre -which is also detention - is a bit flawed. What on earth are they looking for? If you have any sense, or understand the human body, I do not think anything inserted in ones anus, or swallowed is going to sit there for more than a week. Enlighten me on that. Maybe, you are more knowledgable in some parts of the human anatomy! And so flawed and unintelligent is the procedure, that when I left the detention centre, after 5 weeks, I walk out with all my luggage of 90 odd kilograms totally unchecked. Is that what you talk about, when you say protecting the legal citizens of this country?

If you read clearly, what the reporter has said, that I wrote a diary. If you understand that term in its perspective, you will not be questioning if I was sitting and documenting everything. Yes, I was. I had nothing else to do, I have over 90 pages of writing on things that happen in 5 weeks.

Are not the asylum seeker also humans who have family and loved one, just like everyone else? Don't their family's not have to right to know what is happening to them? In my time, between the application centre and detention centre, I was off the radar for nearly 10 days. Is that not enough, time for someone to panic? Unfortunately, during that time, my father who lives in Australia was diagnosed of cancer in his right kidney. Which I came to know, only when I made my first call.

You take the stand that the reporter has assumed many things. On the contrary, it is you who is using asumptions as facts. To answer, how I know when antibiotics were brought, I was administered antibiotics for an infection I contracted within those walls. And it was on me, that dosage was missed. And, I did chart the times it was administered to me. My emeregency was of far more concern than a toothache or headache! The reporter was not wrong in what he wrote. One paracetamol is all that is allowed for a day. (Reasons: Detainee's can collect paracetalmols and harm themselves by overdosing. How creative that must be?)I reported my condition on a friday, it took after the weekend to have a nurse examine me. And then the next day, I was taken to the doctor, who prescribed me antibiotics. It does not stop there. Twice I was not given my medication. I do not need to explain the down side of missing out on antibiotic dosages.

The point is here is not me, or sympathy for me. It is how bureaucracy has displaced humanity. Aslyum seekers are not criminals. Have you ever had to run and hide for your life from the state just because you belong to another ethnic group? Have you ever had a gun placed at your head? Have you seen your daughter or mother being raped? Have you been a victim or seen another human being be tortured? Have you lost a loved one, as a result of human brutality? Have you been falsly accused of something and then punished for it? Have you read the Universal Declaration of Human Right (Which the Netherlands ratified)? Is it a crime to aspire for a right to live in dignity? To assume that all asylum seeker might not be genuine in their request and start a process with that as a key tenent, is the same as me asuming that all dutch people are racist and working backward to figure out who is and who is not. That is a flawed way to think, lacking in intelligence. One does not go in, 'guilty' to be proved 'not guilty'. It works the other way. That is how the civilisd world works. And that is all that is requested of the IND. An organsisation that seems to stone wall itself only with the facts that support their final rulings.

I hope this response, enlightens you to a side of humanity that you and I are a part of. And, not one being superior to another!

jasmin 17 November 2010 - 5:10pm / India

It happens!...

Hiram2 17 November 2010 - 3:34pm

"He has lived and worked in Sweden for years, but was held while changing planes at Schiphol because his visa for Sweden was not valid.".....Sir, what did you expect the Dutch officials to do when they found your visa was invalid? Did you expect them to release you into the Dutch society or let you continue to travel and "possibly" cause some type of problem elsewhere? They had to put you into a detention center until your case was resolve and those security measures of which you spoke. Your perceived negative experiences upon arrival at the detention center are proative, security steps to protect both you, the other detainees and staff at the facility. You also stated "asylum seekers are treated like liars who are trying to enter the Netherlands under false pretences, an untrustworthy group of swindlers." Sir, you were the one with an invalid visa. Those officials didn't know who you were as a person or you wouldn't have been detained. They had to detain you and go through those steps. It is part of the process of protecting the public and the public has a right to be protected. In closing I bet they, the officials, treated you with respect and you know it.

van der Scoot 17 November 2010 - 8:10pm / U.S.A.

Hiram you did a good job of throwing stones at this poor bloke's "glass house".

Now do yourself a favor and consider something: Suppose you landed in the United States and your E.U. Passport had expired. Of course, you would have no problem with landing in a U.S. Immigrations and Customs facility for an indefinite period of time and you would not mind being given the same poor medical treatment that this gentleman went through. And of course, you would not mind not being able to contact a lawyer or even your loved ones. And of course, you would not mind being stigmatized as a liar, a criminal, a drug smuggler or a even branded a potential terrorist. And then, of course you would not mind being told by some smug American that 'I bet they, the officials, treated you with respect and you know it.' Of course, no one in the history of the planet from the Netherlands has EVER entered the United States with an expired passport.....

You did a great job in smashing the other bloke's "glass house"; I just hope that you sleep well tonight in the "glass house" that you live in. It doesn't sound like The Netherlands to me....

Cobber in the G... 21 November 2010 - 2:36pm / Netherlands

Thanks for the kind words!

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