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Afghanistan: Obama’s men scorn Dutch tactics

Published on : 8 January 2010 - 3:45pm | By Bette Dam
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At the Netherlands’ military base in the Afghan province of Uruzgan, Obama’s troops are often at odds with the Dutch way of doing things. While the Dutch foreign minister is eager to maintain a military presence in Afghanistan, in the interests of transatlantic harmony, the United States is pursuing an entirely different strategy in the combat zone. One that threatens to undermine Dutch efforts.

There is a considerable gulf between the niceties of diplomacy and the harsh reality of the frontline. Dutch Foreign Minister Maxime Verhagen is keen to support Barack Obama’s Afghanistan policy, praising his plans for the country time and time again. The US president is more than happy to return the favour.

But out in Uruzgan, Obama’s men – the soldiers and the diplomats – are regularly at odds with the Dutch. How should the situation in Uruzgan be tackled? This question prompts very different answers on both sides. And these differences will leave their mark on the remote Afghan province in the event of an imminent Dutch pull-out.

Sworn to secrecy
The Americans I talked to in Afghanistan are not allowed to talk to the press. “We’ll track you down in Amsterdam,” say some in an ominous tone, concerned that their identity might be revealed. Those I interviewed are engaged in setting out the strategy of the mission in Uruzgan. In exchange for assurances of confidentiality, they took plenty of time to voice their views on the disparity between the US and the Dutch campaigns.

Initially it seemed that US troops would focus on their own mission in Uruzgan, working in isolation. Between 170 and 200 members of the Special Forces were operating under the flag of Operation Enduring Freedom. The Dutch parliament prohibited its forces from working with these fighters, so as not to compromise the Netherlands’ reconstruction efforts. But these days the Americans are exerting an increasing influence on Uruzgan’s affairs, political as well as military.

More children waving
A current example of an approach that is leading to disputes with the Dutch is the US support for two warlords in Uruzgan. The Netherlands sees these men – Jan Mohammed and Mathiullah Khan – as “spoilers” since they have been behind some gruesome hostilities. But the US sees them as powerful figures who can protect their convoys. “We just don’t get the Dutch. Take Mathiullah Khan – he’s becoming more progressive. He can do a lot and do it quickly.”

My sources dismiss as mere propaganda accusations of US troops regularly kicking down doors and arresting people. “There are more children waving to our men than to the Dutch. They don’t dare leave their base,”  one source told me.

At the White House, President Obama was full of praise for the Dutch prime minister for the Netherlands’ exceptional military capacities and insight into local culture and politics. But the US sources I spoke to were scornful of such efforts. The Dutch claim that they brought safety to the still perilous Baluchi Valley by talking with all kinds of local leaders simply doesn’t go down well with the US forces. “That tribal stuff is the long way round. You need to win people over with power and money.”

Two bosses

The Netherlands has worked on an increasingly diplomatic approach in Uruzgan, reflecting the conviction of its senior officers that the “softly approach” is the only one that works. That is why, for the past six months, the Dutch military base at Camp Holland has been under the leadership of both a military commander and a diplomat (see Michel Rentenaar’s web log for further info). With the Netherlands ready to hand over command in August and the Americans set to remain in Afghanistan for another year, this set-up will fall by the wayside.

“It’s no good having two bosses. It just leads to disagreement. Command will revert to the military,” I was told.

Staff at the Dutch Ministry of Defence expect the drive towards good governance to be the first thing to collapse if there is a Dutch pull-out in August. The Americans do not know as much about the local structure and are more geared towards the military aspects.

Realistic answer
The Americans I interviewed do not see their task in Uruzgan in those terms. “We too put a lot of effort into construction work: building bridges and treating people in our hospital.” Their answer when asked how much attention Uruzgan will receive after a possible Dutch withdrawal is a realistic one. The Americans don’t see Uruzgan as the centre of the universe, they concede. The US focus is primarily on the provinces of Kandahar and Helmand.
 

Discussion

Haris 17 February 2010 - 5:09am / Afghanistan

The dutch did their part, once they leave its the Americans problem. To think they can win with force and money is ridiculous.

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SJVP 27 January 2010 - 7:41am / Nederland

The Nederlands helped enough, it is time other European Nato members help for a change. Not including UK, they too have done more then their share.

Anonymous-1 17 January 2010 - 7:20pm / USA

I wonder why the Dutch don't give the US military method a try. Kill as many of the enemy as you can and bully them into submission. But I must say, creating Islamic fundamentalism and teaching them terrorism, like we did in Afghanistan during the Soviet times is coming back to bite us. Now the fundamentalist are using the methods that our Military taught them, right back at us. Thank god that the Russians are not stooping to our level and arming the fundamentalist to get back at us. That would have been a disaster.

Bill 10 January 2010 - 2:00am / USA
David Berridge 9 January 2010 - 10:58pm / Canada

The Italian contingent in Afghanistan practised this approach and it led to the killing of ten members of the French paratroop force which relaced them. The general idea of the NATO presence in Afghanistan is to provide security for Afghan safety and development, not to complete to become the highest bidder in merely renting security for short periods of time. Too many countries entered the NATO effort with caveats and are now themselves constrained by them. The Taliban uses this monetary tribute and extortion to divide the Allies and make their own military operations more concentrated and economical against those who don't pay. The necessary equation for security in Afghanistan is the rate of dead Taliban equaling the rate of safety of the people NATO is attempting to protect there. The West in general is either in Afghanistan to win by eradicating the Taliban as a viable terrorist force, or just marking time there.

Bill 9 January 2010 - 9:49pm / USA

The American "sources" quoted in this article are anonymous and may be lower ranking military members expressing their own opinions. These individual American opinions are different from the current official American policies and may not reflect the actual behavior of American soldiers.

This article mentions US support for two "warlords". If the Dutch forces are opposed to these "warlords" what have they been doing to marginalize them? Does "talking with all kinds of local leaders" mean that Dutch forces are not talking to people they consider to be "warlords", especially the two that the US has been talking to?

If there are Dutch people with more knowledge than Americans of "good governance" and "local structure" why do they not stay and advise American forces? Perhaps it is easier, cheaper, and more selfish to pull Dutch forces out and criticize American strategies from a comfortable distance.

The original purpose of having Western forces in Afghanistan was to ensure that an Afghan government would not allow any terrorist groups to operate freely. Have the Dutch given up on this goal? What will happen when a Dutch airplane is bombed or flown into a building?

Hiram 10 January 2010 - 1:22am / USA

"What will happen when a Dutch airplane is bombed or flown into a building?".... A few people like Wilders will speak-up and want to do something but everyone else will go into denial and come-up with a justification like " Oh, it was just some college kids venting their frustrations over not getting jobs." and afterwards they will want to put Wilders on trial for speaking-up. The Dutch gave up their goal because they never had one!

Jacob Cabeliau 27 January 2010 - 1:21am / The Netherlands

Wilders is one of the people who want to pull the forces out of Afghanistan directly. Wich is strange ofcourse because he is so anti-Islam. But the reason he is against is because he knows its not a popular choice, and it would cost him votes... A real populist... Ofcourse the Dutch will stay, we want to be important..

Vos 9 January 2010 - 7:48am / USA

Interesting. My brother-in-law is in the US Special Forces in Afghanistan, and has been very complimentary of the multinational efforts there. This article is quite a different viewpoint. Also the reason it's good sometimes to read the news across the pond...

sandrav 9 January 2010 - 6:49am / Nederlands

Typical of American arrogance.

Hiram 10 January 2010 - 1:30am / USA

'Typical of American arrogance.'......Sandrav, I "hear" a bit of Dutch arrogance in your condemnation of Americans. Am I right (this time)! You went and hurt my feelings. I might be just a bit but not all Americans are arrogant. Did you know a lot of Americans are Dutch, German, French, and few are Sweds?

Arev Beilttog 8 January 2010 - 8:28pm / Germany

The USA only sees itself at the centre of the Universe! Its 'father knows best' attitude has caused a lot of grief all over.

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